<div dir="ltr">That ticket doesn't have a difference of opinion: it has a core developer of iD offering to buy a cake for whoever contributes a fix. Nobody has contributed a fix: one would be accepted if it was contributed. Plus, we'd give that person a cake.<div><br></div><div>That isn't a difference of opinion: there's no opposition. There's encouragement and an offer of reward for help. There's limited time "the core developers" have to work on iD, and they accept snark and hatred when they do.</div><div><br></div><div>So no, that isn't a difference of opinion. It's a place where we need help and aren't getting it. Threads like this don't help.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Michael Reichert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nakaner@gmx.net" target="_blank">nakaner@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Am 2015-02-11 um 17:25 schrieb Tom MacWright:<br>
<span class="">>> Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a<br>
>> discussion on on the "talk" mailing list is going to be able to do here.<br>
><br>
><br>
> This. Help with development or give productive feedback on the issue<br>
> tracker. FUD around editors has been discussed to death and it's clear that<br>
> writing more emails won't do anything.<br>
<br>
</span>The relation issue has been reported almost two years ago.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1461" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1461</a><br>
<br>
This fact makes me to suggest everyone, every newbie, not to use iD.<br>
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.de/pipermail/stuttgart/2015-February/000526.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.de/pipermail/stuttgart/2015-February/000526.html</a><br>
(in German)<br>
<br>
>From my point of view, there is huge difference in opinion between iD<br>
developers and the mappers who clean up after an iD mapper has damaged<br>
something. There are some cases where the "Don't confuse the user by<br>
popup warnings" (it seems that this is the development goal of iD) does<br>
not work. Relations are an example.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/README.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/README.md</a> says:<br>
> It lets you do the most basic tasks while not breaking other people's<br>
> data.<br>
<br>
I can just laugh out loudly.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Michael<br>
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