<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Bryce Nesbitt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com" target="_blank">bryce2@obviously.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Greg Knisely <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greg@mapzen.com" target="_blank">greg@mapzen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>From a routing/driving
directions perspective, I was hoping to determine if the user needs to
slow down at all where a toll exists if they use an ETC device. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>That would be a short segment of maxspeed=25mph or whatever. Open road tolling would have a constant maxspeed.</div><div><br></div><div>Each functional element should have it's own tag: when too much is implicit it creates problems down the road. For example the same ETC<br></div><div>device may be open road in some areas, require a slow approach elsewhere, and in yet another place involve stopping for a toll taker.</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Agreed. Just off the top of my head I can think of examples of every situation Bryce mentioned: On the Creek Turnpike, <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/83003432">traffic sails through at full speed on the PIKEPASS lanes</a>. The Muskogee Turnpike winds up with a <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/205585571">rare example of per-lane speed limits in the US for PIKEPASS to bypass the toll plaza at speed</a>. Meanwhile, on The Cimarron Turnpike at the Noble toll plaza, which also has an exit to US 177, <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/226015008">PIKEPASS traffic slows down if it's staying on the turnpike</a>, but <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/226015011">all traffic exiting or entering at US 177, or through traffic that needs tourism information or a cash receipt, stops on the turnpike</a>. Meanwhile <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1116722237">Locust Grove has a stop sign</a>, but it generally goes unenforced if you don't trigger the violation alarm, so most PIKEPASS users California roll that one at like, 40 MPH.</div></div>