<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span class="im">I understand that if we want to build a data-use portal, it should be</span><br><span class="im">
managed separately from the current OSM.org infrastructure. But</span><br><span class="im"></span>
couldn't we make a subdomain like <a href="http://use.openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">use.openstreetmap.org</a> [9] to<span class="im"></span><br><span class="im">
showcase projects? And maybe try and let that evolve into an ecosystem</span><br><span class="im">
of applications, to make it as easy as possible to integrate features</span><br><span class="im">
of one project to the next?</span></blockquote><div> </div><a href="http://openstreetmap.de">openstreetmap.de</a> has something thats similar to what you mentioned. On the front page under "Schaufenster" there are mentioned a few project from different categories.<br></div>We have a nice collection of OSM services in the Wiki.It would just have to be made a little more pretty (pictures and co) and presented more prominently.<br><br></div>Cheers<br></div>Christian<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-18 15:24 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@koć.pl" target="_blank">daniel@koć.pl</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">W dniu 18.09.2015 9:10, joost schouppe napisał(a):<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I don't think a portal in the style of the Mapquest example is the<br>
best answer. I don't really think there is going to be any specific<br>
OSM-based Google Maps killer ever going to be built. Instead the<br>
strength of OSM is rather being able to cater to niches. No single<br>
Google Maps inspired project could ever reflect the diversity of what<br>
you can do with OSM.<br>
</blockquote>
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I support this point of view. Google strength is integration of many services (including commercial ones) and a lot of automatic ways to gather and process data; ours is great amount of details and a lot of human-based ways to gather and process data. They are not contradictory - both ways can borrow something from the other, but I think starting with what we already have in a good shape is better than trying to start with imitating the other side of spectrum.<span class=""><br>
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Even though we have a diversity of news channels, I notice how many<br>
involved OSM afficionados don't know about some of these projects. And<br>
if they don't know, how is our average data user ever going to know.<br>
As OSM.org gets more features and users, a larger proportion of those<br>
users will not know about projects like this.<br>
</blockquote>
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Lack of integration - sometimes just underusing existing communication infrastructure - is the most visible problem for me in OSM. The ecosystem is broad, diverse and healthy, which is great, but very disconnected at the same time (even between the most important sub-projects), which makes trying to do anything crossing the boundaries very hard, inefficient and time-consuming.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
I understand that if we want to build a data-use portal, it should be<br>
managed separately from the current OSM.org infrastructure. But<br></span>
couldn't we make a subdomain like <a href="http://use.openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">use.openstreetmap.org</a> [9] to<span class=""><br>
showcase projects? And maybe try and let that evolve into an ecosystem<br>
of applications, to make it as easy as possible to integrate features<br>
of one project to the next?<br>
</span></blockquote>
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Nice idea!<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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