<div dir="ltr">While I am guilty of some of the same reflexes (see <a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/110">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/110</a> ), I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e. showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make everyone unhappy in the end.<div><br><div>If you want to make people who need paths happy, just send them to <a href="http://waymarkedtrails.org">waymarkedtrails.org</a> or to <a href="http://opentopomap.org">opentopomap.org</a> . And if that doesn't make you happy, use overpass-turbo (e.g. <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bCm">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bCm</a>) to highlight the features you need. And show them in a pretty map with umap (see <a href="http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html">http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html</a> for instructions).</div><div>(Yes, the performance of umap/overpass combo isn't great, that could really use some improvement. And yes, it would be nice if <a href="http://osm.org">osm.org</a> was more of a portal for all of us special needs people)</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-23 11:42 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moltonel@gmail.com" target="_blank">moltonel@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 23/09/2015, henk van der laan <<a href="mailto:henk@mijneigen.net">henk@mijneigen.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Now I'm really getting confused. osm-carto is the current version and<br>
> gsoc the new one, right?<br>
<br>
</span>There's been a tremendous amount of discussion, feedback, a tweaks<br>
about this change:<br>
* <a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736</a><br>
* <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz</a> Konieczny/diary<br>
* various calls for participation on this mailing list.<br>
<br>
OSM, and osm-carto in particular are developed in the open. If<br>
anything, they are often flooded by feedback. Please use open source<br>
to your advantage and check the process, the challenges and the<br>
compromises before passing judgement, and contribute using those<br>
channels if you can.<br>
<br>
Osm-carto is full of compromises trying to reach a balance between all<br>
the requirements, it is no easy task. For example, the tertiary roads<br>
styling you bemoan has been heavily debated before reaching the<br>
current conclusion; a tough requirements was keeping a high enough<br>
contrast for non-ideal viewing conditions.<br>
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