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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/09/2015 11:53, joost schouppe
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<div dir="ltr">... I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to
reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e.
showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and
useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make
everyone unhappy in the end.</div>
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I completely agree with that.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/CARTOGRAPHY.md">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/CARTOGRAPHY.md</a>
sums up what it's trying to do, and to be fair that does say that
the three main aims "pull in different directions". For comparison
I recently had a look at the OSM map style as it was in April 2014,
and personally I'm not convinced that progress has been made in two
of the three areas mentioned as goals (specfically detail's less
visible, the design _is_ clearer (as in more coherent) and it's not
any easier to customise).<br>
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<div>If you want to make people who need paths happy, just
send them to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://waymarkedtrails.org">waymarkedtrails.org</a>
or to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://opentopomap.org">opentopomap.org</a> . And if
that doesn't make you happy, use overpass-turbo (e.g. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bCm"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bCm">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bCm</a></a>)
to highlight the features you need. And show them in a
pretty map with umap (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html">http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html</a>
for instructions).</div>
<div>(Yes, the performance of umap/overpass combo isn't great,
that could really use some improvement. And yes, it would be
nice if <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osm.org">osm.org</a>
was more of a portal for all of us special needs people)</div>
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To add to that, creating "a personal map style" of a small area
using
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/">https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/</a>
whilst not for everyone, isn't that difficult these days, and it
doesn't require huge server resources. There are also canned
options such as Mapbox of course if you want someone to host it for
you. It'd be nice if there was a way to see the tiles on osm.org
without resorting to cludges such as
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/Your_tiles_from_osm.org">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/Your_tiles_from_osm.org</a>
though.<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Andy (SomeoneElse)<br>
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