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Nominatim is not a general purpose OSM search API (overpass however
is), it is built around the notion of creating address hierarchies
of (correct) OSM data for the purpose of geocoding and reverse
geocoding. It has some support for interesting POIs, but abandoned
buildings are not really of general interest. <br>
<br>
In any case I'm not quite sure what your issue with using overpass
is?<br>
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Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.01.2016 um 12:02 schrieb John
Doe:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Ok i agree, the rendering is not so important and i
can use other tools, but why i can't search abandoned stuff with
nominatim? this is not so logic in my opinion. If the data is
present why i can't find it with a regular search on <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://openstreetmap.org">openstreetmap.org</a>
for example? this is not a rendering problem.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 06/Gen/2016 06:40, "Marc Gemis" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a></a>>
ha scritto:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">As soon as you record the data
it is in the database, it doesn't<br>
matter whether it is rendered on the standard map or not.<br>
I think that if you need "stats" on abandoned buildings or
shops, that<br>
you will load the data into your own database or a GIS system
such as<br>
QGIS, where you can really analyse and visualise the data.<br>
Another quick solution for visualisation would be to use
Overpass<br>
Turbo or Overpass in combination with umap. No need to wait
until<br>
others do the work for you :-)<br>
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regards<br>
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m<br>
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:42 PM, John Doe <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:theguestone@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:theguestone@gmail.com">theguestone@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
> In my opinion objects with abandoned prefix should be
introduced in<br>
> nominatim for searches and in mapnik to see them (with a
different render<br>
> obviously).<br>
> OSM can be an important database also for stats about
abandoned<br>
> buildings/houses in our cities.<br>
> Some organization (also the public administration) can be
interested in<br>
> research and exploitation of these places and OSM can be
a great base.<br>
><br>
> Il 05/Gen/2016 13:29, "Mateusz Konieczny" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matkoniecz@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matkoniecz@gmail.com">matkoniecz@gmail.com</a></a>>
ha scritto:<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:14:25 +0100<br>
>> John Doe <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:theguestone@gmail.com">theguestone@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > I tagged some abandoned building in my native
city with<br>
>> > abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the
building name but now i can't<br>
>> > search these ones with nominatim (no results)
and none of these<br>
>> > appears on mapnik.<br>
>> > Is prefix abandoned before building=yes really
correct?<br>
>><br>
>> "I tagged some abandoned building in my native city
with<br>
>> abandoned:building=yes"<br>
>><br>
>> I think it is mistake. abandoned: prefix makes sense
for things like<br>
>> shops where there is a fundamental difference between
active shop (POI<br>
>> - it is possible to buy something there or provides
some services).<br>
>><br>
>> abandoned:shop, abandoned:amenity is solely an
orientation point.<br>
>><br>
>> In case of buildings there is no such fundamental
difference between<br>
>> used and unused one.<br>
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