<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I simply need to determine the most likely language of the "name" tag (not the "name:xx" tag). Does not have to be 100% correct - even 80% is great.</div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:59 PM john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Orleans is part of Ottawa and all street names signs are bilingual or in the process of being replaced by bilingual ones. Certainly the street I live on in Orleans has a bilingual street name sign. The English French question is very much political in Canada and I suspect much of the world. <br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Montreal has a quite large English speaking community which is rare in Quebec.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">You could try looking at the street names to see if they are in English and have a second language name as well. name:fr for example.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On 10 April 2017 at 20:47, James <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">james2432@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg">Well it might not be as simple as you say...take for instance Ottawa. It's in Ontario and pretty english. There is a suburb called Orléans in which is pretty much "the french part of town" as most street signs will be in french, but rest of Ottawa is pretty English(in terms of street signs)<div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"> So generilizing wont help you much... </div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Apr 10, 2017 8:27 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Exactly, and that's the map I need -- a set of shapes that define these region mapping: Quebec+New Brunswick => fr, the rest of USA/Canada => en, ... <div class="gmail_msg">The shapes may overlap because that would make geojson smaller - I will simply use the first one.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Having this map will allow me to determine the likely language of the "name" tag for any location, which in turn make for a better multilingual map.</div></div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM James <<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">james2432@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">Well many countries have multiple official languages, Canada is French and English, but in practice is mostly Quebec and New brunswick...with small patches of french throughout the rest</div><div class="gmail_extra m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Apr 10, 2017 8:12 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">James, thanks, but I was hoping for the language regions shapefile, e.g. in the GeoJSON form. The list of official languages will require a lot of work to convert into the merged shapes, and it still not very good, as many countries have several official languages, e.g. Switzerland.</div><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:55 PM James <<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">james2432@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">Also have you checked: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory</a></div><div class="gmail_extra m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Apr 10, 2017 7:50 PM, "James" <<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">james2432@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">More like French for the entirety of the province of Quebec</div><div class="gmail_extra m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Apr 10, 2017 7:38 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">Does anyone know of an open source language map - basically a set of geoshapes with the corresponding language code? Country boundaries are not needed - e.g. Canada and USA would be English with the exception of French for Montreal area.<div class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">This is needed to guesstimate what language the "name" tag is in.</div><div class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">Does not have to be very precise (10-20 MB is more than enough)</div></div>
<br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">
talk mailing list<br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">
<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" rel="noreferrer" class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335m_-6990892542179871275m_-467783752647558298gmail_msg m_-7507743401693469583m_8230054914681925434m_-5567881248735104188m_8412794306355544335gmail_msg gmail_msg"></blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div></div>
<br class="gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">
talk mailing list<br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg"></blockquote></div><br class="gmail_msg"></div>
</blockquote></div></div>