<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div>NRCS stands for Nepal Red Cross Society, so the people behind the edits are part of the local community. The mappers would be local volunteers and may not be comfortable responding to changeset comments that are written in English. I would also guess that changeset comments were not part of the training. Errant keys are relatively straight-forward to find and fix in JOSM. If the tag value is legitimate local knowledge then a little bit of cleanup work is worth it. Someone at the Nepal RC who does some GIS work is aware of the data quality issues and working to fix it. Training people who have access to smart-phones and computers and who regularly use map services can be a challenge. Training people who don’t have such access is even more of a challenge. The time before every edit is perfectly in line with the established OSM guidelines is bound to be a bit longer. Changeset comments such as "It's likely we have to fully delete it because it would take days to clean everything up by hand." when talking about local knowledge added by locals seems against the spirit of OSM.</div><div>All the best,<br></div><div>Dan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Jan Michel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan@mueschelsoft.de" target="_blank">jan@mueschelsoft.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
I wrote some changeset comments as well as Michałs. None of the was answered up to now, despite many new edits have been made by the users.<br>
<br>
It's not just single mistakes, but they accumulate to a substantial amount of data, here's just a small excerpt of what I found:<br>
<br>
Key Occurences<br>
addr:tole 127<br>
Addr:city 19<br>
addr: opening time 28<br>
addr: place 24<br>
Addr:place 35<br>
godawari municipality 34<br>
<br>
New keys are "invented" every day. I think something should be done soon as cleaning this up is quite some effort. I wonder if there is somebody from the local community available to help?<br>
<br>
Jan<span class=""><br>
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On 18.06.2017 23:42, Andrew Hain wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
Have you tried politely making changeset comments asking this?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew<br></span>
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*From:* Michał Brzozowski <<a href="mailto:www.haxor@gmail.com" target="_blank">www.haxor@gmail.com</a>><br>
*Sent:* 18 June 2017 21:32:16<br>
*To:* <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
*Subject:* [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal<span class=""><br>
There has been a number of users making very low quality edits<br>
(lowercase names, wrong tags. geometry problems among others) in<br>
Nepal. They all use this mysterious changeset description: "NRCS basic<br>
OSM training"<br>
If this is training, then the instructor clearly has no OSM expertise required.<br>
The mappers seem to make similar errors: misusing tags in addr:*<br>
namespace, making up amenity=* tags, starting names from lower case.<br>
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<br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Can we pin down who trains these mappers and demand them to stop and<br>
take corrective action?<br>
<br>
Michał<br>
</blockquote>
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