<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I don't really mind having Mapillary in there, but if you do, you'd have to mention OpenStreetCam as well, of course.<br><br></div>When I go out to survey using making Mapillary pictures, it's true I'm not adding data using Vespucci or Walking Papers, but I wouldn't do those things anyway.<br><br></div>Making automated picture sequences doesn't really get in the way of what I'm actuallly doing, cycling, or walking.<br><br></div>When couch mapping they are often really handy to have and work with, so I definitely helps us. Aerial imagery is great, but even at high resolution it's not possible to see every detail on it.<br><br></div>Jo<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-22 11:57 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@tobias-knerr.de" target="_blank">osm@tobias-knerr.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On <a href="tel:21.09.2017%2019" value="+12109201719">21.09.2017 19</a>:45, PanierAvide wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://projets.pavie.info/<wbr>whatosm/</a><br>
<br>
This may be controversial, but I don't think a guide for people<br>
considering to contribute to OSM should send them away to Mapillary.<br>
They aren't part of OSM proper and arguably compete with us for<br>
volunteer time. Mapillary let us use their images, of course, but they<br>
have that in common with a lot of other orgs that no one would mistake<br>
for being part of the OSM project.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented ones, who<br>
> don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood.<br>
<br>
</span>For new contributors, the recommendations feel a bit too focused on<br>
niche use cases, and not enough on core OSM. When people have a few<br>
hours or days to spare and want to contribute to OSM, then I would<br>
almost always recommend that they start mapping in their local area<br>
using iD or JOSM (depending on computer skills).<br>
<br>
Something else to consider is that "outside" and "remotely" does not<br>
cover the entire OSM experience. In fact, the traditional way to<br>
contribute is to collect data outside, and enter it back at home. Right<br>
now, that's not an option with your tool.<br>
<br>
Hope this mail doesn't come across as too negative! I mostly focussed on<br>
potential improvements rather than the things that worked fine for me<br>
(i.e. everything not mentioned here).<br>
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Tobias<br>
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<br>
It might be<br>
> interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User<br>
> interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.<br>
><br>
> This project is open source and is available on this repository :<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://framagit.org/<wbr>PanierAvide/WhatOSM</a><br>
><br>
> You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow contributing<br>
> more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you speak English +<br>
> another language, you can help translating the application :<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.transifex.com/<wbr>openlevelup/whatosm/</a><br>
><br>
> If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Adrien.<br>
><br>
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