<div dir="auto">my 2 cents:<div dir="auto">having a 2 layers map, one with local languages rendered, the second with english ones when present as first choice, then local when not</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il 25 set 2017 7:14 AM, "Yves" <<a href="mailto:yvecai@gmail.com">yvecai@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>If the OSMF tile servers were to be used to provide webmaps for a vast audience, I would understand double labeling in English. <br>
That not the primary purpose, though. <br>
Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 24 septembre 2017 23:01:00 GMT+02:00, Matthijs Melissen <<a href="mailto:info@matthijsmelissen.nl" target="_blank">info@matthijsmelissen.nl</a>> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre class="m_-819171772612315686k9mail">Hi all,<br><br>I would like to ask for your opinion on the choice of language used in<br>the Default map on <a href="http://openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a>.<br><br>This map (based on the openstreetmap-carto style) currently displays<br>all labels in their native language (as defined in the 'name' tag).<br>For example, we have a label 北京市 for Beijing, a label موريتانيا for<br>Mauritania, and a label Magyarország for Hungary.<br><br>The openstreetmap-carto team quite frequently receives requests to<br>(additionally) display labels in English (or in any case the<br>Latin-alphabet). The people making these requests state that the map<br>is currently not very usable for an international audience, as many<br>people are not able to read labels in for example Arabic or Mandarin.<br>Some areas where this problem is particularly visible:<br><a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803#issuecomment-330782700" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>gravitystorm/openstreetmap-<wbr>carto/issues/803#issuecomment-<wbr>330782700</a><br>A prominent case of such a request is from the Gnome Maps team, who<br>decided not to use the Default style for this reason:<br><a href="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764841#c35" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/<wbr>show_bug.cgi?id=764841#c35</a><br><br>From an ideologic viewpoint, I am very much in favour of not giving<br>preferential treatment to any particular language. Using the local<br>language seems fair in this respect. On the other hand, from a<br>pragmatic point of view I can also see that using English (in<br>addition) would significantly increase the usefulness of the map to<br>many people.<br><br>I would be interested to know what others think about this. An option,<br>for example, would be to display countries names, and perhaps the<br>names of big cities, in English as well as in the local language.<br><br>Note: making the map available in multiple language versions is<br>something we like to do in the future, however, this requires quite<br>significant technical changes. Therefore, this is out of scope for<br>now.<br><br>More information on this issue can be found on Github:<br><a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>gravitystorm/openstreetmap-<wbr>carto/issues/803</a><br><br>I'm looking forward to your opinions.<br><br>Kind regards,<br>Matthijs Melissen<br><br><hr><br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/listinfo/talk</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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