<div dir="ltr"><div>> I hope everyone realizes that there are Wikidata items for which there</div><div>> is no Wikipedia article. <br>> So you cannot always find it via Wikipedia tags.</div><div>> And at least JOSM shows a human readable name of a Wikidata item<br>> besides the Q-number. I think iD does this as well.</div><div>> m. (who manually adds Wikidata references for Flemish churches after creating the Wikidata items).</div><div><br></div><div>imho:</div><div>probably you have a local and domain knowledge on the topic of "Flemish churches" </div><div>but for me: wikidata without wikipedia page - is extremely suspicious </div><div><br></div><div>because:</div><div><br></div><div>#1. Sometimes the " nearby" search for geolocated articles/wikidataids is not enough<br>for example: </div><div>* at least ~28000 churches exist in the wikidata without coordinates: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y8nyk9zw" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/y8nyk9zw</a> </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">And probably we will also find wikidata cities without coordinates.</span></div><div><br></div>#2. And we should aware of the current "Parallel geo worlds" problem in the wikidata[1]<br>for example:<br>Arad ( major City in Romania ) has 3 wikidata, and we should prefer id with wikipedia pages.<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">* <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q173591" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/<wbr>Q173591</a> </span></font>( with wikipedia pages, linked to OSM )</div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">* <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31886684" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/<wbr>Q31886684</a> </span></font>( created by Cebuano import [1] ~1 month ago)<font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">* </span><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16898082" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/<wbr>Q16898082</a></span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">[1] wikidata cebuano import problem:</span></div><div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">* <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2017/08#Dealing_with_our_second_planet" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/<wbr>Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/<wbr>2017/08#Dealing_with_our_secon<wbr>d_planet</a>
* <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2017/08#Nonsense_imported_from_Geonames" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/<wbr>Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/<wbr>2017/08#Nonsense_imported_from<wbr>_Geonames</a></span></font></div></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Imre</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-27 5:03 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That's simply rubbish. Tags on an OSM object describe it in the real world.<br>
> They should be verifiable. Whether an OSM object has a wikidata tag on it<br>
> is essentially irrelevant as far as OSM is concerned - it's just a primary<br>
> key into an external database. External data consumers might find the data<br>
> in that database useful, but they can also get to it via wikipedia tags<br>
> (which, being human-readable, are more likely to be maintained), so it's<br>
> really not a big deal.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>I hope everyone realizes that there are Wikidata items for which there<br>
is no Wikipedia article. So you cannot always find it via Wikipedia<br>
tags.<br>
<br>
And at least JOSM shows a human readable name of a Wikidata item<br>
besides the Q-number. I think iD does this as well.<br>
<br>
m. (who manually adds Wikidata references for Flemish churches after<br>
creating the Wikidata items).<br>
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