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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.10.2017 um 15:06 schrieb David
      Groom:<br>
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      <div>How about</div>
      <div>1) Change "OpenStreetmap Collaborative Mapping"
        to "OpenStreetmap Distaster Mapping"</div>
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    Use of the trademarks shouldn't imply endorsement  and/or
    affiliation and in the end exclusivity in any form. "A tool to
    support mapping of disaster areas in OpenStreetMap" would for
    example be OK (a bit long but just to get the point across).<br>
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    Simon<br>
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      <div>2) Link the word "OpenStreetmap"  to the OSM web site</div>
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      <div>Regards</div>
      <div>David</div>
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      <div>------ Original Message ------</div>
      <div>From: "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <<a
          href="mailto:blake.girardot@hotosm.org" moz-do-not-send="true">blake.girardot@hotosm.org</a>></div>
      <div>To: "Christoph Hormann" <<a href="mailto:osm@imagico.de"
          moz-do-not-send="true">osm@imagico.de</a>></div>
      <div>Cc: "OSM Talk" <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org"
          moz-do-not-send="true">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>></div>
      <div>Sent: 23/10/2017 10:37:38</div>
      <div>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?</div>
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            <div>Hi Christoph,</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>We can not win if we do or if we do not :)</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>It clearly says the HOT Tasking Manager, which it is.
              We were asked to</div>
            <div>change it from OSM Tasking Manager because people felt
              that was</div>
            <div>misrepresenting, it was not the OSM Tasking manager, it
              was HOT's</div>
            <div>Tasking Manager, so I changed that in TM v2.</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>And the major emphasis on "OpenStreetMap Collaborative
              Mapping" is</div>
            <div>exactly because people also said we did not put
              OpenStreetMap</div>
            <div>prominently enough. Now it is the biggest thing on the
              page and that</div>
            <div>is not right either :)</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>It doesn't say "HOT Collaborative Mapping" because
              people are not HOT</div>
            <div>mapping, they are OSM mapping.</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>But, I think we are happy to change that title on that
              page to</div>
            <div>something else if the community feels it is somehow
              misrepresenting</div>
            <div>something.</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>Respectfully,</div>
            <div>blake</div>
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            <div>On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Christoph Hormann <<a
                href="mailto:osm@imagico.de" moz-do-not-send="true">osm@imagico.de</a>>
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              <div> I recently turned up on the HOT tasking manager page</div>
              <div> (<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://tasks.hotosm.org/</a>)
                and found the page is now presenting itself</div>
              <div> tautologically as an "OpenStreetMap Collaborative
                Mapping" portal with</div>
              <div> no indication except for the small logo on top that
                this is a separate</div>
              <div> project with no official character. At the same time
                it seems (at a</div>
              <div> first glance) there is not a single link on the site
                to OpenStreetMap.</div>
              <div> To the visitor unfamiliar with OSM this is quite
                likely to generate the</div>
              <div> impression that this is OSM and that contributing to
                "OpenStreetMap</div>
              <div> Collaborative Mapping" always happens via HOT tasks.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div> In my eyes this is a fairly clear misrepresentation
                of OpenStreetMap not</div>
              <div> covered by the trademark policy we now have.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div> --</div>
              <div> Christoph Hormann</div>
              <div> <a href="http://www.imagico.de/"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.imagico.de/</a></div>
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              <div> _______________________________________________</div>
              <div> talk mailing list</div>
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                  moz-do-not-send="true">talk@openstreetmap.org</a></div>
              <div> <a
                  href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk"
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            <div>--</div>
            <div>----------------------------------------------------</div>
            <div>Blake Girardot</div>
            <div>Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team</div>
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            <div>_______________________________________________</div>
            <div>talk mailing list</div>
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