<div dir="ltr">Thanks Frederik. This is a good explanation. Can some of it perhaps be added to the document to make it clearer?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On 22.11.2017 04:16, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:<br>
> Pierre, I suspect the number of QA-tool-driven changes are as big, if<br>
> not much bigger than changes from the organized events and paid editing.<br>
> I agree QA tools should be regulated, but are you sure we want to do it<br>
> in the same document, and significantly increase the scope?<br>
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</span>This is something that was discussed at length while drafting the<br>
policy, and you are certainly right, it *is* a difficult area.<br>
<br>
The spirit of the policy can largely expressed in "responsibility"<br>
terms; the policy, by and large, applies whenever the person being<br>
responsible for an edit is not the person making it.<br>
<br>
Most QA tools still require the user to take responsibility. If the QA<br>
tool says "here's a road that crosses a river without a bridge or ford<br>
or anything, please check on aerial imagery and apply correct tagging"<br>
then the responsibility clearly lies with the user. Even if the QA tool<br>
says "this road is tagged highway=residentail, should it perhaps be<br>
highway=residential instead?" the responsibility still lies with the<br>
user. You could go so far as to say: A QA tool that doesn't require the<br>
user to take responsibility is not a QA tool, it is a distributed<br>
mechanical edit and as such, covered by its own policy already.<br>
<br>
(Of course if I now set up "the great bridge fixing event" where I<br>
invite people to help me fix all these problems in one weekend, and<br>
provide detailed instructions to absolute newcomers on how to fix<br>
bridges, then there might be a point where responsibility shifts to me<br>
and I am now "directing" these people to use the QA tool to fix things.)<br>
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Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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