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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Imre,<br>
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      It is very good and surprising idea. <br>
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      I discovered on the page "Error categories" a tool
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.keepright.at/">https://www.keepright.at/</a> with the help of which I found already
      dozens obviously misspelled tags. It functions quite intuitively,
      just select "misspelled tags" check box and move the map to an
      area of interest.<br>
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      Best regards,<br>
      Oleksiy<br>
      <br>
      On 18.01.2018 15:48, Imre Samu wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">>What can I as a map editor do to keep these
        data files to a reasonable size without compromising  data
        quality? <br>
        <br>
        According to the "Lean thinking" ( <a
          href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_thinking"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_thinking</a>
        ) we should focus on " eliminating waste"<br>
        Waste is:<br>
        *  Any polygon or  tagging errors ( because we can't use this
        information, and need lot of space or processing resources ) 
         or any from this:  <a
          href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Error_categories"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Error_categories</a>
        ;  etc<br>
        *  or any mapping errors ( bad street names ;  routing problems:
        waste for users   )<br>
        *  or any not "UpToDate" data/information  ( old phone numbers
        -   it is useless,  so it is waste )<br>
        <br>
        some examples:<br>
        <a href="http://area.jochentopf.com/stats/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://area.jochentopf.com/stats/</a><br>
        - Errors: Intersections<br>
        - Errors: Duplicate nodes  <br>
        - Errors: Duplicate segments (<b> ~160.000</b>)<br>
        - Errors: Open rings  ( ~9.000)<br>
        - Errors: Inner rings with same tags as outer rings<br>
        - Errors: Wrong role (  <b>~ 700.000 </b>)<br>
        <br>
        some key problems:  ( unused/bad keys is a waste )<br>
        - <a
href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#problem"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#problem</a> 
        ( Keys with possibly problematic characters )<br>
        - <a
href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#space"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#space</a> 
         ( Keys with whitespace )<br>
        - or my favorite:  <br>
        ---  <a
          href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/latitude#values"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/latitude#values</a><br>
        ---  <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/LAT#values"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/LAT#values</a><br>
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        And we have lot of low quality imports we should fix. <br>
        <br>
        <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">>What
          can I as a map editor</span>
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        <div>imho: <br>
          <div>Any quality assurance work helps a lot: <a
              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance</a></div>
          <div>so fixing data problems in your area helps <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">"eliminating
              waste"    and  less waste is good for data size <br>
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            <br>
            Imre<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2018-01-18 6:14 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy
          Muzalyev <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch</a>></span>:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Good
            morning,<br>
            <br>
            I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local
            computer, and I begin to realize how big these data files
            are. It takes quite a while to load into the local database
            just the data for one country.<br>
            <br>
            What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a
            reasonable size without compromising  data quality? I mean
            in the sense, - take care of the pennies and the pounds will
            take care of themselves?<br>
            <br>
            I could think of the following three approaches so far:<br>
            <br>
            - using as short an URL as possible, website=<a
              href="http://somewebsite.com" rel="noreferrer"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://somewebsite.com</a>
            instead of website=<a href="http://www.somewebsite.com"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.somewebsite<wbr>.com</a>
            , three characters less; [2]<br>
            <br>
            - correct phone number ISO format, phone=+12 345 678 90 12
            instead of phone=+12 (345) 678 90 12 , two characters less; 
            [3]<br>
            <br>
            - deleting unnecessary nodes from a way (Shift-Y in JOSM)
            with consequent verification of its geometry;<br>
            <br>
            What else, if anything, could be done?<br>
            <br>
            [1] <a
              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Downloading_data</a><br>
            [2] <a
              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Key:website</a><br>
            [3] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Key:phone</a><br>
            <br>
            With best regards,<br>
            Oleksiy<br>
            osm: Alex-7<br>
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