<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div>I linked this thread to Rufus Pollock and the opendatacommons website is now up again.</div><div>The OKFN chat is here <a href="https://gitter.im/okfn/chat">https://gitter.im/okfn/chat</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Stefano</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-08 14:18 GMT+02:00 James <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" target="_blank">james2432@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Just because you are not the curator of the license doesnt mean you cant display the full legal text somewhere else...The text wont change. GPL, LGPL, BSD, etc projects usually distribute their software with a license text file with the full legal text and dont depend on 1 single point of failure</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 8:13 AM Simon Poole, <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_4203279401390226883m_1671340657236095422moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.04.2018 um 13:30 schrieb James:<br>
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<div dir="auto">why not host it on the osmf website?</div>
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Because we don't own the domain (which is what most references to
the actual text use) and are not the curators of the licence (aka we
could in principle simply covertly change the text of the license,
having a third party publish the text is in principle a good idea
for such reasons).<br>
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Simon<br>
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PS: that doesn't mean that having our own clean copy as a backup
wouldn't be a good idea, but IMHO the pointer to <a href="http://archive.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">archive.org</a> is
probably the best of all bad solutions right now.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 5:46 AM Simon Poole, <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>>
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<p>Currently I'm pointing to
<a class="m_4203279401390226883m_1671340657236095422m_-4648672644762584290moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20180317184051/https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20180317184051/https://<wbr>opendatacommons.org/licenses/<wbr>odbl/</a>
however as the <a href="http://opendatacommons.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">opendatacommons.org</a>
links are all over the place that isn't really a solution.
OKI seems to be aware of the issue, but that is about all
what we know (they seem to be intending to move the site
to a static website, but there doesn't seem to be a time
line or anything available that would indicate if that
will happen soon or in a decade).</p>
<p>I'm sure waving some $ bills in the direction of
OKI/Viderum would get it fixed pronto, but it is obviously
an undesirable situation that we are depending on a third
party that doesn't seem to be interested to provide a
stable link to our licence terms.</p>
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04.04.2018 um 11:27 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-04 10:23 GMT+02:00
Javier Sánchez Portero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:javiersanp@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">javiersanp@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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My name is Javier Sánchez, from Spain.<br>
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The link to the ODbL 1.0 License [1] is not
available since January. This is an
annoyance if trying to ask for explicit
permission to any data source. Is there any
alternative reference? Should not be fine
that OSMF provide a copy of the text in
their site while <a href="http://opendatacommons.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">opendatacommons.org</a>
is down?<br>
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[1] <a rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" class="m_4203279401390226883m_1671340657236095422m_-4648672644762584290gmail-m_-3478140074302494008m_-475124508725089815externalgmail-m_-3478140074302494008m_-475124508725089815gmail-free" href="https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/" target="_blank">https://opendatacommons.org/<wbr>licenses/odbl/1.0/</a><br>
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<div>Regards, Javier<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I agree we should host our own
copy of the license.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">If you need the license text
urgently, you can find it here in the Internet Archive
(not a general solution obviously): <br>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180316015654/https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20180316015654/https://<wbr>opendatacommons.org/licenses/<wbr>odbl/1.0/</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">This is a snapshot from
yesterday, so somehow they got through, but I confirm
I didn't ge the page either, Error 522.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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