<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Daniel,</div><div class="">I’ll look for your contributions on the project talk page. Thanks. Meanwhile, here are answers to your questions:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish</blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback for maps in</blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Polish, but I don't know where should it be requested or configured? Is</blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">this list the right place?:</blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>No fallback is currently defined for Polish. We’ll be happy to change that if you can show community consensus. Make sure your community understands that maps have a separate fallback list from the general language fallback list for the wiki, where the fallback controls things like what language UI messages are shown in. The two lists are identical at the moment, but having two separate lists means that you can change the way maps behave without having to change behavior for the wiki in general. So that should make getting consensus easier. When you have consensus, leave a request with a link to the discussion on the maps project page, or fill in a phabricator ticket and tag it to both “maps” and <font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">"<span id="docs-internal-guid-22dcaf2b-2816-44ad-2de1-bc6233b0cb57" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">Collaboration-Feature-Rollouts (Collaboration-Maps)”.</span></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""><br class=""></span></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""><br class=""></span></span></font></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">2. How many languages do you want to support in total and what hardware</blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">resources are needed for that using your toolchain?</blockquote><br class=""></div></blockquote>Here is the list of languages Wikimedia supports. <a rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1525471804237000&usg=AFQjCNHsOP6lQnhNIucbS2AyFY26AG7tiA" class="Xx" tabindex="-1" dir="ltr" data-display="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix" data-sanitized="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1525471804237000&usg=AFQjCNHsOP6lQnhNIucbS2AyFY26AG7tiA" style="color: rgb(38, 50, 56); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix</a> . As to the toolchain, if you ask that question on the project page, some of our engineers will be able to respond. Be sure to explain why you’re asking, so we can answer you fully. <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">3. What about the same language using different scripts, do you plan to</blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">support them all?</blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That is a very interesting edge case we hadn’t thought of. We’ll have to look into that one; our lead engineer just wrote a ticket to investigate: <a rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1525472750803000&usg=AFQjCNEzVPXSLGmL0dxiGsN09aYPHA7_JA" class="Xx" tabindex="-1" dir="ltr" data-display="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815" data-sanitized="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1525472750803000&usg=AFQjCNEzVPXSLGmL0dxiGsN09aYPHA7_JA" style="color: rgb(38, 50, 56); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815</a>. I know about Serbian. What other languages do this? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Joe<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 3, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Daniel Koć <daniel@xn--ko-wla.pl> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">W dniu 03.05.2018 o 22:49, Joe Matazzoni pisze:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Please post your thoughts and ideas to the project talk page [4].<br class="">Thanks for your help, and for providing the valuable service you do to<br class="">Wikimedia contributors and readers around the world. <br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I will try to put my thoughts there.<br class=""><br class="">However I also have some questions for you:<br class=""><br class="">1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish<br class="">language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback for maps in<br class="">Polish, but I don't know where should it be requested or configured? Is<br class="">this list the right place?:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://github.com/kartotherian/babel/blob/master/lib/fallbacks.json" class="">https://github.com/kartotherian/babel/blob/master/lib/fallbacks.json</a><br class=""><br class="">2. How many languages do you want to support in total and what hardware<br class="">resources are needed for that using your toolchain?<br class=""><br class="">3. What about the same language using different scripts, do you plan to<br class="">support them all?<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">"My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple]<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">talk mailing list<br class="">talk@openstreetmap.org<br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>