<div dir="ltr"><div>Jo, thx. I just looked at all names inside relation 54094 (Brussels-Capital) - 12.691 names without the " - ", and 22,655 with them, so makes perfect sense, thanks! I think it doesn't really matter if default_language is set for the whole Belgium to any specific language, or left undefined, because the region with the higher admin_level, or a non-admin smaller region would overwrite it anyway. Thanks for the explanation!<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:46 AM Jo <<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com">winfixit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The whole country has 3 official languages. In the north nl is the official language, in the south fr. And a small area in the east is de. Brussels is officially bilingual. Hence all names there will be a combination of fr - nl.<div><br></div><div>Normally I would expect Belgium to not have default_language set. You may have to keep a list of countries where it only makes sense to look at the next smaller geographic regions.</div><div><br></div><div>I expect the same goes for Switzerland (whole country 3-4 official languages, but at the next geographic level it is clear which language is spoken/official for which region).</div><div><br></div><div>I think in most multilingual countries the regions are not so clearly defined.</div><div><br></div><div>Jo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-09 2:37 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com" target="_blank">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Polyglot, thanks! I just ran the list of names for Belgium - <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yEj" target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yEj</a> (takes a few minutes and 20MB download). It seems that most of the names are single language. Even cities tend to be a single language strings, with a few exceptions (e.g. Brussels itself, and the country name).<br><br></div>So on one hand, we could set default_language to "nl / fr / de" to match the country name format, or to two languages that match "Bruxelles - Brussel" ("fr - nl" ?). But in reality, the most helpful value is just a single "nl" or "fr" (?), because for almost all "name" tags, there is just a single language. The country name is a very rare exception, but it has many other name:xx defined anyway, so it is not a problem - if user requests "fr" or "nl", there is a name:fr and name:nl. And if user requests something that's not defined, at the end it will still fall back to name tag.<br><br></div><div>What do you think?<br></div></div><div class="m_-8057968111905271421HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8057968111905271421h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:39 AM Jo <<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Since there is not 1 language for Belgium and nl;fr;de is not allowed, it won't be possible to set this tag for Belgium. I did set it on the regions/communities.<div><br></div><div>Polyglot</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-08 22:31 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com" target="_blank">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Daniel, I agree - it seems most of the low-zoom Moroccan names are in a triple-form, and many local names are in a wild mix of french only and multi-lingual ones: <a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yE5" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yE5</a> (thx trigpoint & FredrikLindseth on IRC!) Do you want to change it, or should I?<br><br></div>Also, there are still about 60 countries without a tag:<br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9382ewv" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/y9382ewv</a><br><br></div><div class="m_-8057968111905271421m_-29756123739501663m_89086874344062542HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8057968111905271421m_-29756123739501663m_89086874344062542h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 10:59 PM Daniel Koć <<a href="mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl" target="_blank">daniel@koć.pl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">W dniu 08.05.2018 o 21:31, Yuri Astrakhan pisze:<br>
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> This query shows a list of regions that have the new default_language<br>
> tag (you can multisort column with shift or control clicking the<br>
> headers). <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yd6bx6s3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yd6bx6s3</a><br>
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What about places like Morocco? Shouldn't it be rather similar to<br>
Belgium - "fr ber ar" (because the name is "Maroc ⵍⵎⵖⵔⵉⴱ المغرب") than<br>
just "ar"?<br>
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