<div dir="auto">A photo is word a thousand words... With location is worth two thousand. Just use Mapillary to do sequences, they will easily notice the location by navigating though it. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">A quarta, 29/08/2018, 23:07, <<a href="mailto:talk-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send talk mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Open Location Code and Graffiti (Pine W)<br>
2. Re: Open Location Code and Graffiti (john whelan)<br>
3. Re: Open Location Code and Graffiti (Pierre Béland)<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 19:56:04 +0000<br>
From: Pine W <<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti<br>
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Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using<br>
coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read<br>
your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in<br>
particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a<br>
public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates<br>
would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron<br>
statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the<br>
creek".<br>
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Pine<br>
( <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine</a> )<br>
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On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the<br>
> municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company,<br>
> electric company etc.<br>
><br>
> The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on<br>
> stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly<br>
> where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction<br>
> on the north side of the highway.<br>
><br>
> When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and<br>
> paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type<br>
> in names such as Bottriell Way.<br>
><br>
> So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to<br>
> be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a<br>
> node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones<br>
> are more frequently covered than others.<br>
><br>
> They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit?<br>
><br>
> Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone<br>
> companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be<br>
> confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would<br>
> avoid transcription errors.<br>
><br>
> I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could<br>
> use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another.<br>
><br>
> Inspiration anyone?<br>
><br>
> Thanks John<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:52:02 -0400<br>
From: john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Pine W <<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>><br>
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But what is needed to make it work?<br>
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Thanks John<br>
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:59 pm Pine W, <<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using<br>
> coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read<br>
> your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in<br>
> particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a<br>
> public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates<br>
> would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron<br>
> statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the<br>
> creek".<br>
><br>
> Pine<br>
> ( <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine</a> )<br>
><br>
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> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the<br>
>> municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company,<br>
>> electric company etc.<br>
>><br>
>> The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on<br>
>> stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly<br>
>> where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction<br>
>> on the north side of the highway.<br>
>><br>
>> When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut<br>
>> and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to<br>
>> type in names such as Bottriell Way.<br>
>><br>
>> So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to<br>
>> be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a<br>
>> node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones<br>
>> are more frequently covered than others.<br>
>><br>
>> They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check<br>
>> digit?<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone<br>
>> companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be<br>
>> confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would<br>
>> avoid transcription errors.<br>
>><br>
>> I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could<br>
>> use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another.<br>
>><br>
>> Inspiration anyone?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks John<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> talk mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br>
>><br>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:05:56 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Pierre Béland <<a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
To: Pine W <<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>>, john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Mobile phones let geolocate pictures. Why not simply send a geolocated pictures? This would document the graffiti at the same time. <br>
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Pierre <br>
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Le mercredi 29 août 2018 16 h 57 min 25 s HAE, john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> a écrit : <br>
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But what is needed to make it work?<br>
Thanks John<br>
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:59 pm Pine W, <<a href="mailto:wiki.pine@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wiki.pine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Thanks for sharing the idea of reporting problems like graffiti using coordinates. For some reason this idea never crossed my mind until I read your email. This would have been useful for me on one occasion in particular when I was trying to describe the location of graffiti in a public park. I can think of other types of situations where coordinates would be more useful than saying something like "200 feet north of the iron statue and on the west side of the gatehouse, above a path that goes to the creek".<br>
<br>
Pine<br>
( <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine</a> )<br>
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On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, electric company etc.<br>
The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on stretches of highway that have no houses which means describing exactly where they are becomes problematical. 200 meters south of the X Y junction on the north side of the highway.<br>
When reporting I use JOSM to pick up the street name from OSM then cut and paste it into the Web form. I invariably make mistakes when trying to type in names such as Bottriell Way.<br>
So to make this work the municipality and the phone company etc. have to be able to recognise the OLC codes. I probably need to add the boxes as a node into OSM initially just those that have Graffiti, some particular ones are more frequently covered than others. <br>
They may have to be transcribed, so do OLC codes incorporate a check digit?<br>
Anyone have any experience with working with municipalities and phone companies etc in this way? Yes Lat and Long would work but might be confusing to people who have to work with them, again check digits would avoid transcription errors.<br>
I also need something to generate an OLC code when using JOSM. I could use OSMand but its difficult to cut and paste from one device to another.<br>
Inspiration anyone?<br>
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