<div dir="auto">yes. I've been running openjdk since before the oracle debacle.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Openjdk is the bleeding edge version of java. All new features are now developed on the openjdk side by oracle and other open source developers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When a release is issued, oracle adds performance secret sauce to their proprietary binaries, that's about it.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct. 7, 2018 5:25 p.m., "john whelan" <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">But will it run JOSM today or would some changes be required to JOSM?<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks John</div></div><div class="elided-text"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, 5:11 pm James, <<a href="mailto:james2432@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">james2432@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">people will switch to openjdk. problem solved.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun., Oct. 7, 2018, 5:09 p.m. john whelan, <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">JAVA has a number of problems. Many corporations ban its installation citing security issues which restricts the machines that can use JOSM with all its nice tools.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Oracle never was enamoured of open software and since it has taken over JAVA the licensing has changed amongst other things.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I note that <span style="font-size:inherit;color:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:inherit;white-space:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,ubuntu,"helvetica neue",sans-serif">Vincent Privat has reservations about the new version saying they are removing functionality from JAVA that JOSM depends on.</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit;color:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:inherit;white-space:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,ubuntu,"helvetica neue",sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit;color:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:inherit;white-space:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,ubuntu,"helvetica neue",sans-serif">Running old versions of JAVA is I think impractical. There are too many security issues.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:inherit;color:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:inherit;white-space:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,ubuntu,"helvetica neue",sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">iD runs using an Internet connection and a browser. I think there is a need for something like JOSM which can work completely off line if need be.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">C# apparently is open source. Visual Studio 2017 is a professional development environment. Yes it is Windows and I recognise that many prefer one flavour of UNIX or another but I think it is time to think strategically and start work on a replacement for JOSM before we find we can no longer use it. It can certainly create code which will run on UNIX systems.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I'm not saying C# is the only way to go. </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">My days as a coder were in the main forty years ago so I'm out of date these days however I had occasion to use both C# and Visual Studio 2017 recently when the language I used to use to knock up the odd program was unable to do what I was after. I must confess I was impressed. </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So thoughts ladies and gentlemen?</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Thanks</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="system-ui, -apple-system, blinkmacsystemfont, segoe ui, roboto, ubuntu, helvetica neue, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Cheerio John</span></font></div></div>
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