<html><head></head><body>Bitmap based pre-rendered maps are always a trade-off.<br><br>If you are looking for a more "google-like" dynamic map, then check out the vector tiles based maps which support search for amenities and can dynamically display features.<br><br>The arguments had been cited already by the map maintainers. You can always fork and render your own map. Free OSM data allows you to do so.<br><br>Stephan<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On October 20, 2018 10:17:43 AM GMT+02:00, Maarten Deen <mdeen@xs4all.nl> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On 2018-10-20 03:33, Daniel Koć wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">W dniu 19.10.2018 o 07:39, Maarten Deen pisze:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">Does this mean that amenity=atm only gets rendered in zoom 19 and<br>higher? If so, why? It is now rendered from 17 onward, shops get<br>rendered from 18 onward.<br>It seems to me that atms are at least as important as shops.<br></blockquote><br>Yes, you get it right. I based this solution on size principle, because<br>this is the only universal rule I know that helps managing the mess<br>which is best visible on z17 in big, well mapped cities. Here are two<br>real life illustrations of the problem with small amenities I gave<br>during long and hot discussion:<br><br><br><a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3372#issuecomment-423373856">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3372#issuecomment-423373856</a><br><a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3372#issuecomment-426308795">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3372#issuecomment-426308795</a><br></blockquote><br>With that argument you can delete all icons because "well mapped cities <br>are cluttered". Maybe there needs to be done something about that, <br>instead of not showing information everywhere.<br>There is not even a hint that there is something now. Shops already get <br>mapped as dots first, now atms are just invisible except at the highest <br>zoom.<br>Sorry, but IMHO this is a bad change.<br><br>Maarten<hr>talk mailing list<br>talk@openstreetmap.org<br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>