<div dir="ltr">I think a country relation should describe how the specific country think of its borders. So if two countries claim the same territory, those two relations will overlap.<div><br></div><div>While not ideal, this is preferable for many data consumers - when generating a map, one always has to consider whom it is being generated for. E.g. it would be illegal in some countries to generate political map not according to that country's government. So when I generate a map for Russia, I have to show Crimea as part of Russia. For Ukraine - as part of Ukraine. Same for China and India and ...</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 5:11 PM Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br><br><br>21. Oct 2018 15:12 by <a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>:<br><br><blockquote class="m_5060342876761265932tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div>Therefore
we can all be satisfied there is clear guidance from the board how to
deal with this: the local situation determines how we map, and the OSMF
is explicit here: “National borders are particularly sensitive.
Currently, we record one set that, in OpenStreetMap contributor opinion,
is most widely internationally recognised and best meets realities on
the ground, generally meaning physical control.”<div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.</a>pdf </div><div><br></div><div>When I recently looked at Crimea I noticed it is still part of the Ucraine in OSM: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/60199" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/60199</a></div></div></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Yes, situation on the ground is quite clear here.</p><p><br></p><p>No matter whatever we like it or not, Crimea is no longer controlled by Ukraine and situation</p><p>here is quite clear, unlike other affected regions.</p><div><br></div><div>We should apply here "Note that OSM follows <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule" title="Disputes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Ground Rule</a>. Boundaries recorded in</div><div>OpenStreetMap are ones that are the most widely internationally recognised and best meets realities</div><div>on the ground, generally meaning physical control."<br></div> </div>
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