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<div style="16px" text-align="left">Jan 7, 2019, 3:23 PM by mishari@mishari.net:<br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>1. What's a fair expectation from such a mapping team? <br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left">To not make <g class="gr_ gr_1335 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_disable_anim_appear Grammar only-ins doubleReplace replaceWithoutSep" id="1335" data-gr-id="1335">situation</g> worse - it is unnaceptable to make much more mistakes<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">than unpaid hobby mappers.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div></div></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Maybe they unable to fulfil this requirement and contract signed with Grab while<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">remaining profitable - but it is not our problem.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> <br /></div></div></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="16px" text-align="left">On one hand there's the potential to add much geometry to the project<br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><g class="gr_ gr_1349 gr-alert gr_spell gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim ContextualSpelling multiReplace" id="1349" data-gr-id="1349">low quality</g> data is worse than no data<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Sadly Bicycle routing in the Grab mapped areas in Bangkok using Brouter.de is now unreliable because service roads have been added without
information about access permission or barrier and in other cases ways have been connected where no connection exists.<br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">In cases where mistakes are obvious using available aerial images and made by a paid mapper<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">who was warned about such mistakes in changeset comments - I would revert immediately.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">In cases where edit could not be done in a better way using aerial images - I am unsure and consult <br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">others.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>2. Thailand's mapping community is small and it would be impossible for us to go through all 7,000 edits made and set it right. I've identified at least one of the issues (1-3) in roughly 1 out of 4 changesets made by Grab/Global Logic in my neighborhood in Central Bangkok and I would be unable to give feedback on any issues outside of this zone, likely the same with other mappers.<br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I would assume that data elsewhere has the same quality. If it is making map worse I would revert<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">such edits.<br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>2.1 Should we just ignore the errors, slowly fix the errors, or demand Grab fixes it somehow? Can we take lessons from any other projects, say TIGER imports?<br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px" text-align="left"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="16px">Demand fixes before adding any new data and before subcontractor <g class="gr_ gr_1602 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="1602" data-gr-id="1602">collects</g> money and <g class="gr_ gr_1603 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="1603" data-gr-id="1603">runs</g> away.<br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>2.2 What would even constitute as a fix by Grab? Should we ask them to do something like fixme=verify_on_ground on the new entries so that it can be ignored by the routing until verified?<br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">The only use of fixme=verify_on_ground is that it would make mass deletion easier.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Data added should be correct, not marked as incorrect. And requirements for paid mappers<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">should be increased not lowered.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">They should simply add correct data.<br /></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> 3.1 There doesn't seem to be a way in to enforce a commitment. <br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">If added data is known to be low quality it is OK to revert it without detailed review.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Sometimes just mentioning that mass revert is an option is enough.<br /></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br /></div> </body>
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