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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Apr 18, 2019, 12:02 AM by andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 22:38, Mateusz Konieczny <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Apr 17, 2019, 11:19 PM by <a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk">andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk</a>:<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 21:03, Mateusz Konieczny <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></blockquote><blockquote>[list of examples]<br></blockquote><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">It would seem reasonable to have a bot routinely convert those to<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">brand:wikipedia tags, with (say) a white-list for HQ objects.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Also HQ should not be linked to Wikipedia article describing company.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">That depends, surely, on whether the HQ is represented by tags on the<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">building-object, or on a node within a building, which may be a<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">building with shared occupancy.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Yes, building element can be linked to entry describing building<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(not company).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">office=* element separated from building may be linked to entry<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">describing this specific office (unlikely to have a Wikipedia article,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">though one may probably create a Wikidata entry).<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">And if one is adding, say, the company's URL to an object, it is<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">logical to add the Wikidata ID to the same object.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">AFAIK we use website tag for urls about given element<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">and url for any sort-of related link.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">In office=* element I would consider website tag linking to a company<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">website as an incorrect.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">We could also suggest that tools (JOSM, ID, etc) issue a warning when<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">such values are added, ether based on matching items in a list, for<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">retching the item's "insatnce of" value from Wikidata.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am not sure about is using "instance of" data from Wikidata limited by<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">copyright issues.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Wikidata data is PD/CC0, so that is not an issue. Even if it were,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">referring to something is not the same as copying it.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Wikidata is CC0 under US law. For example it includes location data from<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Google Maps (via import of location data from Wikipedia).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">In general, at this moment Wikidata ignores sui generis database rights.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">This is not blocking claiming that their database is CC0 under US law,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">but it is not true for example under EU law.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">And editing OSM based on Wikidata data us not the same as referring to it<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(though likely editing OpenStreetMap limited to changing wikidata/wikipedia<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">links based on Wikidata/Wikipedia is fine. After all one needs to know <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">what is linked - anything else would make creating any pointers<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">to external databases illegal).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div> </body>
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