<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Christine.. <div class=""><span style="font-style: normal;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-style: normal;" class="">We mustn't define “the community” as the few remaining handful of people who have not yet been driven off the mailing lists by persistent abusers and trolls.</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I am very aware of what people are saying about iD on all discussion channels. I read all of it, even the stuff written in other languages, and even archives of mailing lists that I’ve long unsubscribed from.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I encourage everyone to not put too much stock into what “the community” of mailing list haters thinks about iD. It’s the same dozen or so people who have never liked me or iD much anyway.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I meet with stakeholders every week about the improvements we’ve made in iD, <i class="">and I’m proud of the work that our small team has been able to accomplish with each new release</i>. Right now there are 1000s of people editing with iD (most volunteering, but some paid) who will never stop by mailing list or a GitHub thread. They far outnumber the voices that you hear on `talk` or `tagging`.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In large part because of the escalating negativity, I will not be attending State of the Map. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My strong recommendation to you is to fill the program with content that encourages community health, inspires people to be better to one another, and celebrates the great things people are building with OpenStreetMap.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks, Bryan</div><div class="">❤️, 🆔</div><div class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 29, 2019, at 5:55 AM, Christine Karch <<a href="mailto:christine@hermione.de" class="">christine@hermione.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">reading the discussions about the direction of ID development and how<br class="">the community wants the ID at the OSM website I had the idea that there<br class="">could perhaps be a panel at SotM. Does anyone want to organize an ID<br class="">discussion panel at SotM? Please tell me or us (program committee in CC)<br class="">and we can consider it. At the moment it would be sufficient to have<br class="">someone (or more) who wants to organize it. All details could be defined<br class="">later.<br class=""><br class="">As ID is a core feature at the OSM website I think this would be<br class="">suitable for the main program at SotM.<br class=""><br class="">Additionally it is always possible to organize informal meetings, panels<br class="">during SotM in the unconference space (we will provide a lot of it).<br class=""><br class="">By the way ticket sales is open. The Early Bird phase is until 7 July.<br class="">Program announcement will be around 20 June.<br class=""><br class="">We will have our schedule meeting at 8 June. So it would be good to know<br class="">if an ID panel should be planned. Details for the program booklet should<br class="">be provided until end of July.<br class=""><br class="">Cheers<br class=""><br class="">Christine<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">osmf-talk mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>