<div dir="auto">Kathleen has a good point, it is important to choose a good license if you want to use photos by others too. And it is good to discuss the license early in your project.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Milo</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 31, 2019, 22:13 Nick Whitelegg <<a href="mailto:nick.whitelegg@solent.ac.uk">nick.whitelegg@solent.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">No-one besides myself has uploaded anything yet, so happy to change to ODbL. The panoramas are a different dataset to OSM however, now I think about it, it could well be they are a 'derived work' as the OSM map helps
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<b>Sent:</b> 31 May 2019 19:31:52<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Nick Whitelegg; OSM Talk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers</font>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility</a>) I would suggest that you consider using ODbL as the license instead of CC-BY-SA.</div>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Thanks! Actually used Pannellum: <a href="https://pannellum.org/" class="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105OWAAutoLink" id="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105LPlnk104769" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Note that there is one little issue, which I thought I'd resolved, but has recurred today, and *might* be down to Pannellum: occasionally (and inconsistently, i.e. there isn't a sequence of actions which causes it
to happen) if you click on a camera icon when in map mode it doesn't load the panorama. Most of the time it's fine though.
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<b>Sent:</b> 31 May 2019 17:20:57<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Nice! Did you create your own panoviewer or did you use <a href="https://www.marzipano.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Some of you are probably aware that way back in 2010 I started developing OpenTrailView , which aims to be a StreetView-like web application but focusing on off-road routes such as hiking trails, with crowd-sourced
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Recently, due to the increasing availability of 360 cameras and the appearance of mature panorama APIs (e.g. Pannellum) and client-side routing APIs (GeoJSON Path Finder) I have restarted work on OpenTrailView and
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Since then I have done further work and OpenTrailView, while still incomplete, is in a state where I believe it's ready to start receiving contributions.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><a href="https://www.opentrailview.org/" class="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105x_gmail-m_2687603160666148576OWAAutoLink" id="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105x_gmail-m_2687603160666148576LPlnk993222" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.opentrailview.org/</a></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">You can get an idea of how it allows you to 'walk' along OSM ways by navigating in the default area (Southampton Common). There are also some panoramas available close to Fernhurst, West Sussex (lat 51.05, lon -0.72).
There's a Nominatim search available if you switch to 'map' mode (see the map icon).</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">If you signup and then login, you can contribute your own 360 panos. Obviously follow the usual privacy considerations (no faces, no car number plates) - panos will be moderated before they go live to ensure they
do not have any privacy violations amongst other things.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">The key thing about this version is that it will use underlying OSM data to auto-connect panoramas. This was not done on any previous version.<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">However, note that while the site will accept panos anywhere in the world, at present, the auto-connection facility will only work in *Europe* plus Turkey (I am using the Europe Geofabrik extract), as my server currently
only stores European data. Nonetheless I have had a possible offer of helping with hosting costs so expansion to the entire world could well happen soon.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">The maps provided are rather basic, showing only highways, coastlines and a few selected POIs, this is due to server capacity constraints. If anyone is aware of a tile server I can use legitimately as a replacement,
without violating the usage policy, please let me know.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">In similar style to OSM, panos will be copyright 'OTV360 contributors' and licensed under CC-by-SA. IANAL but this seems to be the most common practice.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Do remember once again that this is an unfinished product but it is now in a state where I believe it is of interest to contributors.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Gitlab: <a href="https://gitlab.com/nickw1/opentrailview/" class="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105x_gmail-m_2687603160666148576OWAAutoLink" id="m_4274712996644203132x_gmail-m_8910803618954903317m_-1698066390814995105x_gmail-m_2687603160666148576LPlnk934596" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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