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<p><font face="Arial">Months go by nothing happens. here's another
example from LiveStream, a Vimeo service.They have a map
(example, press "i"
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883">https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883</a> ) ,
asked to add the attribution, they replied they do not use OSM
tiles or data, which i kindly asked how they had my
contributions on their map. They stopped replying, short after
saying they would investigate. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Guess what tiles they are using? Mapbox.
Screenshot <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg">https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Does OSMF need these corporates member that
keep acting like this? Who are the first not complying with what
the community wanted when we switched from CC to ODbL? Still the
board hasn't replied to my request to terminate Facebook license
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html</a> <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Funnily, Facebook shared this today
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/">https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">As a reminder of OSMF articles
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">
<blockquote type="cite">
<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="OBJECTS">OBJECTS</span></h2>
<p>3. The Foundation is established for the purposes listed
below:
</p>
<dl>
<dd>(1) encouraging the growth, development and distribution
of free geospatial data; and</dd>
<dd>(2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use and
share.</dd>
</dl>
</blockquote>
Are these companies encouraging the use, the growth and
distribution of OSM, by repeatedly and after being asked several
times to show the attribution?<br>
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<p><font face="Arial">Do we need to ask the board to expel those
corporate members (equivalent to associate member)? <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">
<blockquote type="cite">18. The board may only resolve to expel
a person as member or associate member if, in the board's
reasonable opinion, that person's conduct interferes or is
likely to interfere with the Foundation <u><b>achieving one
or more of its objects</b></u>. </blockquote>
<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Who's in need more of who? OpenStreetMap or
these companies? this is not acceptable and OSMF needs to act as
companies, their clients clearly do not care when contributors
contact them asking to comply. This is a snowball going downhill
with more and more companies doing what facebook does and not
attribution and stop replying to the contributors request to add
the attribution. Guess we or OSMF is too soft on this.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">When we switch this was plain and explicit:</font><br>
<font face="Arial"><b>Both licenses are “By Attribution”</b> and
“Share Alike”. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">
<blockquote type="cite">
<h2><font size="-1"><span class="mw-headline"
id="Can_I_trust_the_OpenStreetMap_Foundation_.3F">Can I
trust the OpenStreetMap Foundation ?</span></font></h2>
<p><font size="-1">The Foundation is "dedicated to encouraging
the growth, development and distribution of free
geospatial data and to providing geospatial data for
anybody to use and share.", ( <a rel="nofollow"
class="external free"
href="http://www.osmfoundation.org">http://www.osmfoundation.org</a>
). </font></p>
<p><font size="-1">But what happens if the Foundation is taken
over by people with commercial interests?
</font></p>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">You still own the rights to any data you
contribute, not the Foundation. In the new Contributor
Terms, you license the Foundation to publish the data
for others to use and ONLY under a free and open
license.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">The Foundation is not allowed to take
your contribution and release it under a commercial
license.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">If the Foundation fails to publish under
only a free and open license, it has broken its contract
with you. A copy of the existing data can be made and
released by a different body.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">If a change is made to another free and
open license, it is active contributors who decide yes
or no, not the Foundation.</font></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
from </font><font face="Arial"><font face="Arial"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F</a></font></font></p>
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