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<p><font face="Arial">Yes it is and when they reply:</font></p>
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<blockquote type="cite">The Livestream Platform does not utilize
the Open Street Map site or any of the data that you're
referring to. We have always used another mapping service to
integrate locations within our event and have no ties to
OpenStreetMap. <br>
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And then you send a OSM History Viewer link of when you added on
OSM with a printscreen of that same element on their website.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 23:48 de 23/07/2019, James escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="auto">It's kind of funny when people deny osm data as it
has it's own sort flavour that differentiates it from google,
bing, here, etc. It's instantly recognizable.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue., Jul. 23, 2019, 6:43
p.m. Nuno Caldeira, <<a
href="mailto:nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Arial">Months go by nothing happens. here's
another example from LiveStream, a Vimeo service.They
have a map (example, press "i" <a
class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883</a>
) , asked to add the attribution, they replied they do
not use OSM tiles or data, which i kindly asked how they
had my contributions on their map. They stopped
replying, short after saying they would investigate. <br>
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<p><font face="Arial">Guess what tiles they are using?
Mapbox. Screenshot <a
class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Does OSMF need these corporates member
that keep acting like this? Who are the first not
complying with what the community wanted when we
switched from CC to ODbL? Still the board hasn't replied
to my request to terminate Facebook license
<a class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html</a>
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<p><font face="Arial">Funnily, Facebook shared this today
<a class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">As a reminder of OSMF articles <a
class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"> </font></p>
<blockquote type="cite"><font face="Arial">
<h2><span class="m_-6096016603830548469mw-headline"
id="m_-6096016603830548469OBJECTS">OBJECTS</span></h2>
<p>3. The Foundation is established for the purposes
listed below: </p>
<dl>
<dd>(1) encouraging the growth, development and
distribution of free geospatial data; and</dd>
<dd>(2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use
and share.</dd>
</dl>
</font></blockquote>
<font face="Arial"> Are these companies encouraging the use,
the growth and distribution of OSM, by repeatedly and
after being asked several times to show the attribution?<br>
</font>
<p><font face="Arial">Do we need to ask the board to expel
those corporate members (equivalent to associate
member)? <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"> </font></p>
<blockquote type="cite"><font face="Arial">18. The board may
only resolve to expel a person as member or associate
member if, in the board's reasonable opinion, that
person's conduct interferes or is likely to interfere
with the Foundation <u><b>achieving one or more of its
objects</b></u>. </font></blockquote>
<font face="Arial"> <br>
</font>
<p><font face="Arial">Who's in need more of who?
OpenStreetMap or these companies? this is not acceptable
and OSMF needs to act as companies, their clients
clearly do not care when contributors contact them
asking to comply. This is a snowball going downhill with
more and more companies doing what facebook does and not
attribution and stop replying to the contributors
request to add the attribution. Guess we or OSMF is too
soft on this.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">When we switch this was plain and
explicit:</font><br>
<font face="Arial"><b>Both licenses are “By Attribution”</b>
and “Share Alike”. <br>
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<p><font face="Arial"> </font></p>
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<h2><font size="-1"><span
class="m_-6096016603830548469mw-headline"
id="m_-6096016603830548469Can_I_trust_the_OpenStreetMap_Foundation_.3F">Can
I trust the OpenStreetMap Foundation ?</span></font></h2>
<p><font size="-1">The Foundation is "dedicated to
encouraging the growth, development and distribution
of free geospatial data and to providing geospatial
data for anybody to use and share.", ( <a
rel="nofollow noreferrer"
class="m_-6096016603830548469external
m_-6096016603830548469free"
href="http://www.osmfoundation.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.osmfoundation.org</a>
). </font></p>
<p><font size="-1">But what happens if the Foundation is
taken over by people with commercial interests? </font></p>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">You still own the rights to any
data you contribute, not the Foundation. In the
new Contributor Terms, you license the Foundation
to publish the data for others to use and ONLY
under a free and open license.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">The Foundation is not allowed to
take your contribution and release it under a
commercial license.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">If the Foundation fails to publish
under only a free and open license, it has broken
its contract with you. A copy of the existing data
can be made and released by a different body.</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><font size="-1">If a change is made to another
free and open license, it is active contributors
who decide yes or no, not the Foundation.</font></li>
</ul>
</font></blockquote>
<font face="Arial"> from </font><font face="Arial"><font
face="Arial"><a
class="m_-6096016603830548469moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F</a></font></font>
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