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<p><font face="Arial">So you are saying that when we switched from
CC to ODbL, the bellow quote was not true?<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><font face="Arial">Both licenses are “By
Attribution” and “Share Alike”.</font></blockquote>
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<p><font face="Arial"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F</a><br>
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<p><font face="Arial">Also the license is clear, anyone that views,
i don't have to interact to acknowledge the notice.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 18:08 de 09/08/2019, Kathleen Lu
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<p>Guidelines by the licensor<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On legal advice, <b>what a
Licensor says carries weight with users of our data
and, potentially, to a judge</b>. A court would make a
final decision on the issue, however we hope these
guidelines are helpful to <b>avoid </b>disputes
arising in the first place and can be considered by the
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<div>Nuno, you are quoting this like it's the law, but what
you have quoted here isn't the *law*, it's what *OSMF*
thinks *might* happen and what motivates OSMF to put out
guidelines. Frankly, OSMF can choose to change the language
you have quoted as a part of changing the guidelines! <br>
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<div>Under the law, the licensor's opinion, as one party to
the contract, is taken into consideration. However, it is
*not* the only thing that matters. The words of the licence
matter more, and if there is a conflict between what the
licensor thinks and what the licence says, the words of the
licence will control. In that case, the licensor is simply
"wrong" (and there are plenty of cases where that was the
end result).</div>
<div>You are right that we hope to avoid disputes by setting
out reasonable guidelines, but if OSMF sets out guidelines
that are unreasonable and not tied to the language of the
licence, then no one, either users of the data or judges,
will listen to OSMF, and, under the law, rightly so.<br>
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