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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">9 Aug 2019, 10:41 by simon@poole.ch:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left"> consolidate all attribution guidance in to one document <br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Thanks for work on that!<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Unfortunately proposed version contains<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">major loophole that will be deliberately<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">exploited by organisation like Facebook<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">or Maps.me or Mapbox that describe<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">OSM data as their own.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">"<span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">If OpenStreetMap data accounts for a minority (less than 50%) part of the visible map rendering, attribution with other sources on a separate page that is visible after user interaction is acceptable."</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">In basically any readable map less that 50% of</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">visible map rendering is using OSM data</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">or can be trivially modified to do it.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">For example - claim that land area is not</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">from OSM data but default map state</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">or use alternative data for land boundaries.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">----<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Note that claim that this companies* will </span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">use ridiculous loopholes is not prediction,</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">they are doing it already or simply lying.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Mapbox representative explicitly claimed in</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">mail to me that hiding attribution behind i</span></span></span></span></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">buttons fulfills ODBL requirements.</span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">FB and mapsme ignored multiple reports</span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">about their attribution violation.</span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">*and other, but in this cases I reported their</span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">illegal use of work of OSM mappers and got</span><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">ignored.​</span><br></div>  </body>
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