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<div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">warning: not a lawyer<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">1 Nov 2019, 10:35 by jfriedl@yahoo.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div style="16px">For ABC I would not have chosen the term “require” from XYZ but they probably must make them aware <br></div><div style="16px">that in the product they are selling there are third party rights (OpenStreetMap’s copyright) which come <br></div><div style="16px">with certain obligations (ODbL).<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">In my example, OSM copyright doesn't apply to XYZ because it's simply not making a copy of OSM data.<br></div><div style="16px"> The ABC company is taking OSM data and making a copy (map tiles). It's ABC that is serving the map tiles.<br></div><div style="16px"> It's ABC (and only ABC) that's actually accessing OSM data, so it's ABC (and only ABC) that has any<br></div><div style="16px"> copyright exposure.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px">ABC is making and distributing derivative works of OSM data.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px">It's
as if I took your famous photograph and made a million prints and then
advertised them for sale at stores throughout the world. The stores are
not making copies of your photograph... they're just passing<br></div><div style="16px">along information about a product. It's me who would be on the hook for the copyright violation, because<br></div><div style="16px"> it's me who made the copies without right.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">I think that you mix two things:<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">(1) Yes, there are some protection for unknowingly distributing materials violating copyrights <br></div><div style="16px">(for example exemption from direct and indirect liability of Internet service providers and <br></div><div style="16px">other intermediaries in DMCA). I am not sure whatever in your case shops would be liable or not -<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">probably depends on country and whatever your claim for owning copyright was credible and<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">other factors.<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">(2) In case of one person committing copyright violation/creating derivative works<br></div><div style="16px">original copyright (and copyright-like restrictions) still apply (though there is fun with de minimis,<br></div><div style="16px">fair use etc that as usual may or may not apply).<br></div> </body>
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