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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On the main osm.org site one can
right-click on a building and select "Show address" or "Add a note
here" . What if a new type of a note is introduced, a structured
address note?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The structured address note entry form
will consist of several input fields:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Building number: ...</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Street (avenue): ...</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Post index (zip code, postal code): ...</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">City (town, village): ...</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Region (State, Canton, Department): ...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Country: ...</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It could also include a captcha to
prevent mass automated entries.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Usually people do know very well
addresses of buildings in which they live, work, or which they
visit. This way they will know that the OSM map is interested to
map the correct postal address, since there is this readily
available structured address entry form. So they can add an
address without learning how to use a complex map editor.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best regards,</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Oleksiy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/5/19 19:37, Steve Coast wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Maps have three basic components: Display
(does it look nice?), Routing (Can I get from a to b?) and
Geocoding (Where is this address?).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OSM is extremely good at the first one, and
pretty good at the second one. But it’s pretty deficient in
the third area: address data.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The question is, how can we fix this?
Addresses are a big, big problem in terms of how much data we
need to go collect. There are a few ways forward with outside
commercial or government data, but they tend to be difficult
because the data is patchy or licensed in ways that aren’t
very compatible with OSM.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It seems like it would be a good idea to
think about this from the bottom up in a community way, and
this doesn’t really exist in OSM right now. It seems like we
need better feedback loops to:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Community
can see where the address data is (and isn’t), because it’s
not very obvious today when using osm.org</li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Make the
tools to add address data better so that it’s easier to fix.</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To that end, here’s a tile server that
highlights address data:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a
href="http://ec2-52-50-19-165.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/#10/39.7561/-104.9574"
moz-do-not-send="true">
http://ec2-52-50-19-165.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/#10/39.7561/-104.9574</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It shows roads with address data normally
and kind-of hides other roads, to make it obvious that
“something is wrong with this map”. We could have a tag (maybe
it exists already) that says “this road doesn’t have
addresses” and/or a tag that says “this road is complete”.
(right now it’s just got Colorado and Utah in it).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When OSM started, the map looked very
broken and incomplete because there was missing data all over
the place. This created a large incentive to go fix the map.
The idea with this tileserver is to do the same thing and make
the map look broken to create a large incentive to fix it. If
we, one day, switched the main osm.org site to using this
rendering then it would create an urgent need to find all the
addresses in the places where they exist. It could also be
done on a temporary basis for a few weeks, or on a per-country
basis or some other slow introduction to see if it worked.
It’s just an idea.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On the tools side, there’s much that can be
done to make collecting and entering addresses easier. I’ve
been collecting UI/UX changes to tools (e.g. iD or Go Map!)
that would make addresses better:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_SIG"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_SIG</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It also seems worthwhile to create a group
of people interested in addressing in OSM (an address special
interest group or working group) to push these ideas forward
so that we can “finish” OSM by getting all the addresses done.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What do you think?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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