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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks Nuno,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have added them to the list and also sent them an explanatory email requesting an update.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers - Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 23 December 2019 9:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Wyatt <phil@wyatt-family.com>; 'Martin Koppenhoefer' <dieterdreist@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Pierre Béland' <pierzenh@yahoo.fr>; 'OSMF Talk' <osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org>; 'OpenStreetMap talk mailing list' <talk@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>obviously not. their reasonable calculated attribution must be the same as requested on ODbL, but seems theirs and their logo (like in Strava app) is reasonable calculated than OpenStreetMap.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 22/12/2019 22:35, Phil Wyatt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Are you suggesting that is OK or not OK Nuno?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers - Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Nuno Caldeira <a href="mailto:nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com"><nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com></a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 23 December 2019 8:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Martin Koppenhoefer <a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com"><dieterdreist@gmail.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Pierre Béland <a href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr"><pierzenh@yahoo.fr></a>; OSMF Talk <a href="mailto:osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org"><osmf-talk@openstreetmap.org></a>; OpenStreetMap talk mailing list <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org"><talk@openstreetmap.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sadly the board won't do anything. By the way came across this, new way of a fixed reasonable calculated Mapbox attribution when you click SHOW/HIDE LEGEND. <a href="https://www.natureindex.com/collaboration-maps/melbourne">https://www.natureindex.com/collaboration-maps/melbourne</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 21/12/2019 20:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>sent from a phone<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>On 20. Dec 2019, at 14:41, Nuno Caldeira <a href="mailto:nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com"><nunocapelocaldeira@gmail.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>@Phil Wyatt don't get me wrong, but adding something there is useless. i added Facebook there over one year ago. They don't have shame, no point to add companies there, when there's sites and companies that been there for years without real consequence. It's just a wiki page that most won't ever acknowledge.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I disagree on this. Yes, it’s just a wikipage, but at least it documents abusers and our attempts to notify them about their abuse and ask them to respect the license. There are some insistent refusers but generally people do add attribution when pointed to attribution issues. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>When companies refuse to respect the license or repeatedly ignore communication attempts it should be duty of the board to look into it.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cheers Martin <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html>