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<div>i am talking about in my own back yard,</div>
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<div>i just hiked a mile down the street to check it out, it was not the same when i was there in</div>
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<div>1985, but it did not match the mapper either.</div>
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<div>to that end, bing is 2015 or 16,</div>
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<div>as an example the county forest preserve map took from osm, so mappers have copied that and it is wrong</div>
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<div>and how do you see thing under the trees unless you walk it.</div>
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<div>so who is to say that any of OSM is not fake.</div>
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<div>if all mappers are tracing.</div>
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<div style="font-color:black"><b>From:</b> <a title="jwhelan0112@gmail.com">john whelan</a></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:08 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="80hnhtv4agou@bk.ru">80hnhtv4agou@bk.ru</a></div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="talk@openstreetmap.org">OSM Talk</a></div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] is OSM a fake map.</div>
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<div>I'm fairly lucky in that in the last three years nothing much has changed locally. The highways have stayed much the same. Most buildings are still there.
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<div>If you use Bing to add things then realistically it fills in gaps in the map. If you delete things because they are not in Bing that is a quite different matter.</div>
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<div>Does it matter if the mapper lives more than five miles away? Well I've mapped places a few thousand miles away but they were places I knew very well as I used to live there.</div>
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<div>I don't think OSM will ever be completely accurate. Having said that it is still very useful for many purposes.</div>
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<div>Cheerio John</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr_mailru_css_attribute_postfix" dir="ltr"><span data-email="talk@openstreetmap.org" data-name="80hnhtv4agou--- via
talk" data-quote-id="1693991348712606017" data-timestamp="1577611860" data-type="sender">On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, 12:31 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk, <<a>talk@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<div>it say in some wiki. to correct what you find wrong on the map,</div>
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<div>not one<font color="#0000ff"> “other nearby users”</font> is a current mapper, and all edits in a 5 mile radius are not coming from an on the ground</div>
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<div>mappers in my area but 20 miles + away and are tracing from bing, and the images on bing in my local area are from</div>
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<div>2016 so i do not see how the map locally is true, and it is not easy to go and see every thing they have done,</div>
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<div>no car or bike.</div>
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<div>every thing i do is backed up by me on mapillary, and in traces.</div>
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