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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/1/20 9:24 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via
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                    <div>maybe i asked it wrong, there is no way per
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                    <div>tracers looking at bing it looks flat but it is
                      a big mountain, on the one hand or a big hole in
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                    <div>of an reintion dry pond</div>
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                    <div>in the case of a road, on the top of a mound or
                      below street leave.</div>
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                    <div>that is to show that these things are not on
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    <p>Umm 'ground level' is where you find it, beside the sea shore it
      may have an elevation of 0, on top of a mountain it maybe many
      hundreds of meters above sea level.</p>
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    <p>If you have a drop on either side then it is s ridge line - use
      the tag 'natural=ridge'. Note the key 'natural' is used for both
      natural and man made objects.. it is a poorly named key. <br>
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    <p>If you have a road with a drop on either side then tag ways on
      either side with embankment, with the appropriate directions.  <br>
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                          <div style="font-color:black"><b>From:</b> <a
                              title="talk@openstreetmap.org"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Pierre Béland via
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                          <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 15, 2020
                            1:28 PM</div>
                          <div><b>To:</b> <a
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                            ; <a title="baloo@ursamundi.org"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Paul Johnson</a> ;
                            <a title="yvecai@mailbox.org"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">Yves</a></div>
                          <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk]
                            Tag:man_made=embankment</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">I think that there is a
                            miss-conception here. If you want to talk
                            about the wall the retains the earth, this
                            is the dyke. The embankment is more then a
                            wall and is at least as large as the road
                            and made of resistant material.  The wiki
                            pages <a
                              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embankment"
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                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embankment</a>
                            and <a
                              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dembankment"
                              rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dembankment</a>
                            do not accept usage of polygones with these
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                          <div dir="ltr">see description of embankments
                            in <a
href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/highway-embankment"
                              rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                          <div>Le mercredi 15 janvier 2020 13 h 56 min
                            45 s UTC−5, Yves <<a
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                              <div>You should have read "right side of
                                way" : it's the side on your right when
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                                    15 janvier 2020 17:59:42 GMT+01:00,
                                    Paul Johnson <<a
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data-name="80hnhtv4agou--- via talk" data-quote-id="1695574766530419865"
data-timestamp="1579073280" data-type="sender">On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at
                                                10:28 AM 80hnhtv4agou---
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                                                          <div>“<font
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color="#222222"><span>should be tagged on a way drawn with the<span> </span></span><b><u><em>lower
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                                              <div>The downhill side of
                                                the embankment is to the
                                                right of the way.</div>
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