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On 05/02/2020 12:15, Dave F via talk wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:6e895016-4a3e-4c79-5c90-9b3c4fe74db9@btinternet.com">Who
& how did you contact them? If a Public forum, could you post
a link? if email, could you copy paste exactly the replies to you?
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<p>not a public forum, I wrote to VigotheCarpatian as an
openstreetmap message, here's some of it:<br>
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<p>myself, on 2019-12-06 19:31</p>
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<p>Hi Vigo, thank you for replying, this is one changeset where
I commented</p>
<p><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35874422"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35874422</a></p>
<p>that’s just an example, but not at all an isolated case. what
I’ve been seeing here in Panama (the country) is that Kaart
people in 2015 have been mapping individual commercial
enterprises as separate buildings.</p>
<p>two examples, in Chorrera and in Panama.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385343944"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385343944</a>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/382714337"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/382714337</a></p>
<p>the whole Avenida B in Panamá has buildings which have been
split like this. I have personally checked that in cases, a
single building was split in three slices. I did not fix it.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/384068371/history"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/384068371/history</a></p>
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<p>also, please, don’t leave junk behind, like <code>source_1</code>,
<code>shop=yes</code>, or even putting a building in Panamá,
and writing <code>addr:city=Santa Ana</code>.</p>
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<p>one more mistake is relative to mapping landuse:retail as
landuse:commercial, possibly because of the false friend
Spanish “centro comercial”. (example: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385055420/history"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385055420/history</a>)</p>
<p>there’s very few editors in Panamá, megabytes are expensive,
we can’t afford neither the workload nor the bandwidth to fix
this, so I’m trying to have things fixed upstream, that is,
from Kaart.</p>
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you already have Vigo's answer, on 2019-12-06 23:04:</p>
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<p>Hi Mario, thank you for all the information and feedback on
the work done in Panama. I have informed the team and we will
use the information you gave us to improve future edits made
by Kaart. Thanks again for reaching out to us.</p>
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to which I answered, 2019-12-07 14:23</p>
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<p>I’m happy you will use the information I gave you, but it is
relevant
that you’re speaking in plural form, that’s for the Kaart
organization.
Since you’re speaking for a group, where the group edits in an
organized
way in an area where there is a community of mappers, that
puts your
group (Kaart) in the position where you should consider
<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines</a>. </p>
<p>Please do that for the future, I insist. And if you have any
current
activity regarding Panamá, it’s not too late to inform the
local
community via the wiki.</p>
<p>As for the “… to improve future edits”, well, that’s nice,
but what
about what your editors left behind? I’m glad you reverted to
unclassified that unclassified you had tagged as track, but
there’s more
drops in the sea. What about organizing a review of your past
edits,
involving the local community? <br>
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and I got the reaction, 2019-12-09 17:10</p>
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<p>Hello Mario, here is the wiki page of projects and places
that Kaart are working in. <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kaart"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kaart</a></p>
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which did not and still does not mention Panama at all.</p>
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