<HTML><BODY><div><div class="js-helper js-readmsg-msg"><style type="text/css"></style><div><div id="style_15809575471326731277_BODY"><div class="class_1580983703"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:#0000ff; font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt"><div>in the united states we call this a strip mall if you are walking on the outside one building sharing the same roof</div><div> </div><div>but divided by fire walls, or just a mall if you are walking on the inside with multiple buildings in a central core.</div><div> </div><div>as i see it that is not the problem it is the abuse of the polygon, mappers can not leave things be they have to</div><div> </div><div>draw everything in sight and most are not local but tracing from the satellite view.</div><div> </div><div><a data-title="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Polygons" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Polygons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Polygons</a></div><div> </div><div>like everything else there needs to check and balances an editor in chief or an editorial board someone in charge, someone that can</div><div> </div><div>come in, takeover, un till then OSM is fake news.</div><div><div style="color:#000000; display:inline; font-family:"Calibri"; font-size:small; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none"> </div><div style="font:10pt tahoma"><div style="background:#f5f5f5"><div style="font-color:black"><b>From:</b> <a title="mario@anche.no">Mario Frasca</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:45 AM</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title="talk@openstreetmap.org">OSM Talk</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b> [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated"</div></div></div><div> </div><div> </div><div style="color:#000000; display:inline; font-family:"Calibri"; font-size:small; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none">hi all,<br><br>I sort of moved to Panama. I am trying to find local mappers wanting to<br>discuss issues, help take decisions, document decisions, and validate<br>data. it's been a hard task, and it's not the only hard task here in<br>Panama: time and again I find tons of mistakes added by people who,<br>mostly in good faith, won't take responsibility for their edits. when<br>it's isolated editors, I comment on their edits, or ask for a temporary<br>block if they keep adding dubious data without reacting to comments.<br><br>when it's an organization, it can be easier, or very much more complicated.<br><br>one common practice, the one I wish to discuss here, is something done<br>by Kaart editors: splitting a building into as many slices as the amount<br>of commercial activities within the building. I am in no position to<br>take care of the amount of instances of this practice, and fix them, nor<br>do I lead a group of editors who can fix such an amount of issues, and<br>definitely not while these issues keep streaming into the database, and<br>the stream has very variable intensity. I've signalled it to their<br>editors, or to their leaders, but apparently when an activity is closed,<br>it's too late to ask them to review. I've asked them to alert the<br>community *before* they start each such activities, but I did not manage<br>to get a commitment. apparently also Kaart (as HOT) does not take any<br>notice of the Organized Edits directive.<br><br>I've now moved to tagging as many of them them as 'fixme'. maybe public<br>shame will do the job.<br><br>hints?<br><br>tank you and best regards,<br><br>Mario Frasca (mariotomo)</div></div><div><div style="color:#000000; display:inline; font-family:"Calibri"; font-size:small; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none"> </div></div><div><font color="#000000">this is what I'm talking about:</font><br><br><a style="href: "https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qqh"">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qqh</a><br><br><font color="#000000">one more things that make this situation even more complicated, is that<br>many of these ways have shop:yes, which sounds like "I'm too lazy to<br>investigate the details, please someone does it for me", which I did in<br>one shopping area, putting shop names in a web search, and fix the type<br>of the shop, before realizing the dimension of the problem.</font><br><br><a style="href: "https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/748685987"">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/748685987</a><br><br><a style="href: "https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35874422"">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35874422</a><br><br><font color="#000000">(one of the many instances of expressing doubts and not getting a<br>reply) (people participating to organized edits, who later disappear<br>from OSM, and leaving you with the doubt whom to contact.)</font><div style="color:#000000; display:inline; font-family:"Calibri"; font-size:small; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none"> </div><div><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="/compose?To=talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></BODY></HTML>