<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpcad81a27yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Joseph,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If you were talking of fast food restaurants, I would understand that we expect to see these in hundred of countries. But there are features that yes are not seen as intensively.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">One fast food POI counts for one. One 500km route counts also for one.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">This Overpass query shows that the tag is used in five provinces / territories in Canada, plus Norway and Sweden.<br></div><div class="ydpcad81a27signature"><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"></span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Please revert your undelete and if you are not happy with this, you should go to the Tagging list for discussion.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">regard<br></div><div><br></div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"><font style="background-color: inherit;" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div></div>
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Le mercredi 19 février 2020 09 h 38 min 44 s UTC−5, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com> a écrit :
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<div><div dir="ltr">The tag is documented at<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dsnowmobile " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dsnowmobile </a>- it has<br clear="none">been used 141 times only. I did not delete the documentation, but I<br clear="none">did remove the tag from<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:route, " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:route, </a>and<br clear="none">added a comment to<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template_talk:Map_Features:route" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template_talk:Map_Features:route</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">This does not need to be on the main "Map features" page, which is a<br clear="none">curated list of the most commonly used tags, for new users, since it<br clear="none">is a new tag with few uses. This has nothing to do with my opinion of<br clear="none">the tag. It looks fine to me.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If you wish to add this tag to Map Features, there are 2 options:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">1) Create a Proposal page and follow the process to get the tag<br clear="none">Approved (see <a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features</a>)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">2) Map lots of these features and then wait for other mappers to adopt<br clear="none">the tag. If it has been used thousands of times in many different<br clear="none">countries over a period of several years, then it can be added to Map<br clear="none">Features as a "De facto" tag, even without a vote.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joseph Eisenberg<br clear="none"><br clear="none">(In the future, a better place to discuss changes to<br clear="none">Template:Map_Features:route is<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template_talk:Map_Features:route" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template_talk:Map_Features:route</a>)<br clear="none"><div class="ydp52a4e722yqt2115521100" id="ydp52a4e722yqtfd66833"><br clear="none">On 2/19/20, Pierre Béland <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:pierzenh@yahoo.fr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pierzenh@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> Joseph, you deleted recently the link I added to the Map_features wiki page<br clear="none">> for snowmobile routes. It seems you dont like such schema and want to<br clear="none">> impose your views here.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Snowmobiles routes are as common as bike or hiking trails in nordic<br clear="none">> countries. And the snowmobile wiki page describes it.<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dsnowmobile" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dsnowmobile</a><br clear="none">> Would you please revert your delete ?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Pierre<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Le mercredi 19 février 2020 04 h 00 min 04 s UTC−5, Joseph Eisenberg<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> > I have occasionally moved such pages into the user's name space when I<br clear="none">> found them to (by content, if not by name) to be proposals for<br clear="none">> something, rather than a documentation of something already established.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> That is fine if the tag has not been used, and the page is written<br clear="none">> like a proposal suggestion. But if the user just wants to tag a dozen<br clear="none">> widgets as Tag:amenity=widget, it is fine to leave the Tag page in<br clear="none">> place, and then add information as needed like "See Also the more<br clear="none">> common tag landuse=widget which has a similar meaning", or "Some other<br clear="none">> mappers have used this tag in a different way, with this differnet<br clear="none">> meaning..." when necessary.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I personally check every new Tag: and Key: page (in English,<br clear="none">> Indonesian or Spanish) every couple of weeks, and I suspect Mateusz<br clear="none">> Konieczny and some other experienced wiki users also check the<br clear="none">> Special:NewPages list frequently for the same reason. You can see that<br clear="none">> many of the Tag: and Talk pages on<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:NewPages " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:NewPages </a>have been edited<br clear="none">> by more than one user, even the ones that were made in the past month<br clear="none">> or two.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> This review effort is not yet happening for the Data Items, and since<br clear="none">> there were >500 created by bot over Christmas (Dec 25-26th), I think<br clear="none">> it's unlikely anyone has reviewed the recently created data items over<br clear="none">> the past few months. Most are content-free (key=value is the only<br clear="none">> property), but some probably need to be checked.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> - Joseph Eisenberg<br clear="none">><br clear="none">></div></div></div>
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