<div dir="ltr"><div>When I think of access=customers, I think of toilets inside a restaurant, or a parking lot outside a pub you can only usually access as a customer, so only things that are inside other things. The restaurant itself or the pub wouldn't normally have the access tag. But I guess for an institutional library only open to students I guess you could say they are "customers" of the university, it's just a bit less clear.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey
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<div dir="ltr">Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal
process for new tags <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process</a>.
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<div>Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the
public on not (access=yes means open to the general public),
but it's unclear how say a school library or library
restricted to attendees of an educational facility like a
university should be tagged (is it access=private since only
those people attending the institution have been given
permission?</div>
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<div>You can mark the operator of the library with <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator</a>,
which might be the local municipality/government/council, or
might be the school or university.</div>
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<div>You can mark the operator type with <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type</a> eg
public, private, government, religious, ngo,
community, consortium, cooperative.</div>
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<div>There are open questions similar to yours at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=library#Types_of_libraries" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=library#Types_of_libraries</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 06:04,
Christian Rogel <<a href="mailto:christian.rogel@club-internet.fr" target="_blank">christian.rogel@club-internet.fr</a>>
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<div>We are generally aware of
the importance of the libraries, as they are numerous and
useful by their variety (public, academic, specialized,
school…).</div>
<div>But, why they have been so
neglected by us, the mappers, seing them on the ground,
getting maybe frequently in ?</div>
<div>So poors are the tags for
describing them.</div>
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<div>Yes, you can add the
address, the phone, the opening hours and a few
precisions. See <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlibrary" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,175,10)">ameniy = library</span></a></div>
<div>But, you cannot indicate
which public is admitted, if most of the collection is
visible, which kind of documents is displayed and/or
lended, and so on…</div>
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<div>I suggest that every
person capable proposes some categorization and enriches
the wiki page above. </div>
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<div>From a few hours
discussion on the French OSM list, we were looming around
using « library:for = {public targeted} and
library_collection.</div>
<div>But, there are more than 2
angles in library and information services.</div>
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<div>Note : <a href="https://librarymap.ifla.org/map" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,175,10)">a map of the libraries
in the world</span></a> was launched years ago by the
International Federation of Library Associations (IFLA),
but we do not see any location, the figures per countries
only. </div>
<div>Let us remember the huge
number of 2.6 M libraries registered. The French version
on Google Map displays 162 locations.</div>
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<div>81 500 <i>amenity=library</i>
are <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=library#overview" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,175,10)">present in OSM database
today</span></a> 20 apr. (5 500 in France). We can
reach a richer content.</div>
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<div>Christian Rogel</div>
<div>Retired chief librarian
(France)</div>
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