<div dir="auto">The ones that stood out were highways that connected settlements to other settlements on the map. These had been changed from highway unclassified surface unpaved to highway=track by a mapper with Apple connections.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">They seemed to have retagged a fair number and I don't honestly recall exactly where they where. I seem to recall sending an email to the mapper concerned pointing towards the Africian highway Wiki and assumed that was the end of the tale.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Today I was looking at a very remote hamlet and was surprised to see it was connected by a highway=tertiary that terminated in the hamlet. I'm not saying it was incorrectly labelled but being curious I had a look at the history. If it has been mapped by someone who only mapped twice on a HOT project that's one thing but this highway had been tagged unclassified then retagged to tertiary by a mapper who maps for Apple according to his OSM page and had some 6,000 edits to their name. It actually says on the highway from Bing not local knowledge.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When I see two different Apple mappers whom I assume are paid mappers essentially retagging things rather than mapping new things it raises the question in my mind are they doing this to improve the map in some way or are they measured by how many highways have their tag on them?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If it is the latter then a different metric for paid mappers might get more useful results in the map.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A conventional OSM mapper normally maps to add detail or correct glaring errors in the map. A paid mapper might not have the same point of view.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know I'm cynical and I'm not even sure there is much that can be done about it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheerio John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 16:12 Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Please clarify: are the Apple mappers 1) changing the ways to highway=track, or 2) changing ways that are currently highway=track to something else?<div><br></div><div>I would support #2 in any case where the way connects settlements, since we have always defined highway=track as a way that is used for agriculture, forestry etc., not for travel between settlements.</div><div><br></div><div>– Joseph Eisenberg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:17 AM John Whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I've noticed a number of highways being changed in Africa from
unclassified to track and from unclassified to tertiary. The ones
I've noticed are Apple mappers usually with the comment of from Bing and
often the highways connect settlements so should be a minimum of
unclassified or path but not track.<br>
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African highway wiki says it is difficult to classify highways without
local knowledge above unclassified. Track is fairly easy it doesn't
connect settlements according to the wiki.<br>
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Do I get the impression we are talking targets here? The paid mappers
have to do so many edits to meet their targets and changing the
classification using Bing is easier than adding to the map?<br>
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Do we care? Is it is just something to be aware of.<br>
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Thoughts?<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Cheerio John <br>
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