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<div>Aug 9, 2020, 10:25 by <a href="mailto:pangose@riseup.net">pangose@riseup.net</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag.<br></div></blockquote><div>Absolutely no.<br></div><div><br></div><div>tagging name tag is a fundamental part of OSM tag,<br></div><div>offloading it to a third party service is a mistake that will not happen<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655</a> contains several misleading, wrong, mistaken<br></div><div>and problematic claims, statements and implications but I have no time to process in detail<br></div><div>as the entire idea is fundamentally bad, mistaken, problematic, broken, not workable,<br></div><div>not acceptable, not going to happen and wrong.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Some samples:<br></div><div><br></div><div>"there is no such thing as an international name. Names are part of a<br></div><div>language whih is part of a culture. They are not GIS objects and the <br></div><div>osm datamodel does not handle this complexity well at all."<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are you aware that we have other tags beyond name tag?<br></div><div><br></div><div>loc_name, name:pl and many others?<br></div><div><br></div><div>"No more name vandalism in osm. We export the name handling to<br></div><div>wikidata which has a much better system for handling vandalism."<br></div><div><br></div><div>Because vandalism in third-party service is superior?<br></div><div>Are you seriously claiming that Wikidata has less trouble with vandalism<br></div><div>and deals with it better?<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Substantial changes will have to be made:<br></div><div>* nominatim will need to support fetching names from wikidata somehow. It could probably be done on the fly.<br></div></blockquote><div>Untrue, Nominatim is doing it already.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div> retire signing up as OSM user on osm.org and ask users to create a Wikimedia account instead and log in with that? <br></div></blockquote><div>If you think that it is a viable idea then you are mistaken.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div> </body>
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