<div dir="ltr"><div>Steve,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the confirmation that the attribution is missing. I will let you, and the rest of the list, know if and when I hear from them.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:51 PM stevea <<a href="mailto:steveaOSM@softworkers.com">steveaOSM@softworkers.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks very much you two: I've often meant to do something about alltrails' seeming / actual lack of attribution to OSM (if it exists, I haven't found it either) and something always seems to creep up and prevent me from taking action. These are most assuredly "our" (OSM's / mine, others in OSM) data. Yea: let's get this ball rolling and a proper OSM attribution!<br>
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SteveA<br>
California<br>
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> On Aug 19, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Clifford Snow <<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hey Mike,<br>
> They definitely mention OSM, even call us a partner [1] but like you found their basemap is definitely OSM. Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct them to email <a href="mailto:data@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">data@openstreetmap.org</a>, <br>
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> All Trails is located in SF but I couldn't find any listing of a leadership team. <br>
> <br>
> Do you want to ask on Slack? Someone there might have a connection.<br>
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> [1] <a href="https://support.alltrails.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018930672-How-do-I-update-or-change-information-about-a-trail-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://support.alltrails.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018930672-How-do-I-update-or-change-information-about-a-trail-</a><br>
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mike Thompson <<a href="mailto:miketho16@gmail.com" target="_blank">miketho16@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Has anyone tried contacting the AllTrails[0] people about their use of OSM without attribution? I am not talking about the "OSM Map Layer" that they offer, but rather the default "AllTrails Map Layer." At the very least it appears that the trails on that layer come from OSM. I know that because I have entered some rather obscure informal trails in OSMe, and they show up in AllTrails just as I entered them in OSM.<br>
> Mike<br>
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> [0] <a href="https://www.alltrails.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.alltrails.com/</a> (in the search box enter the name of a trail, park, or city to see their map.)<br>
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