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<div>If you (or anyone else) see way to improve it - feel free to do this.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So far (at least in my opinion) this page benefited from edits of different people,<br></div><div>so far there was also no issues with people having incompatible opinions about<br></div><div>what is the consensus opinion.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sep 16, 2020, 12:04 by nick.whitelegg@solent.ac.uk:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes - that's absolutely fine! Just wanted to clarify it here so that the wording could be altered (I'm quite happy to do this myself).<br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Thanks,<br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Nick<br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div id="Signature"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt" dir="ltr" id="divtagdefaultwrapper"><br></div></div></div></div><div id="appendonsend"><br></div><div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:#000000"><b>From:</b> Mateusz Konieczny via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org><br> <b>Sent:</b> 16 September 2020 11:01<br> <b>Cc:</b> osm <talk@openstreetmap.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page</span></span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sep 16, 2020, 10:59 by talk@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left:10px; margin-left:5px" class=""><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I would understand 'semi-public garden' to be, for example, a garden where you pay an admission fee to enter, or one which is closed at night. Like Martin, I would expect these to be completely acceptable to map.<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Not a native speaker, not a lawyer. I would describe such areas as public (possibly privately owned).<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left:10px; margin-left:5px" class=""><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I think the intention is to deter people from mapping _fully private_ gardens which can be viewed from public roads, is this correct?<br></div></div></blockquote><div>I am not sure about other, but for me it is about discouraging mapping fully private garden in detail.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For example mapping garden area itself and trees (maybe even with their species), but<br></div><div>micromapping area where someone planted strawberries seems something that<br></div><div>is out of scope of OSM for privacy reasons.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left:10px; margin-left:5px" class=""><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Nick<br></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div id="x_Signature"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt" id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div><div id="x_appendonsend"><br></div><div><hr style="display:inline-block; width:98%" tabindex="-1"><br></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="color:#000000" class=""><b>From:</b> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@gmail.com><br> <b>Sent:</b> 16 September 2020 08:51<br> <b>To:</b> Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz@tutanota.com><br> <b>Cc:</b> OSM Talk <talk@openstreetmap.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page</span></span></span></div><div> <br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">sent from a phone<br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16. Sep 2020, at 09:41, Mateusz Konieczny via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Do you think that this page is a good description of community consensus?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are some points I would like to comment on:<br></div><div><br></div><div>- <br></div><ul style="margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding:0px; color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px"><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">OpenStreetMap is not a property registry, thus <i>do not map individual ownership</i> of buildings or plots. There is no need to split residential landuse into individual plots. (Compare <a style="text-decoration:none; color:rgb(11,0,128); background-image:none" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parcel" title="Parcel">Parcel</a>.)<br></li></ul><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style=""><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:14px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style=""><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:14px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style=""><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">Yes, we do not map individual ownership of land and buildings generally, but unless the owner is
a person, we could and privacy regulations would not prevent us from doing it. It also isn’t an argument for refraining from mapping property divisions, because these are interesting regardless of _who_ is the owner</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style=""><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:14px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px">“some structure of a semi-public garden appear to be the borderline of being acceptable.“</span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px">IMHO exaggerated, semi-public objects can be mapped in all detail
and aren’t borderline cases</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px">Well, at least according to my understanding of the term semi-public</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px">Cheers Martin </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:23px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="color:#222222" class=""><span style=""><span style="" class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:14px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </body>
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