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iD editor attracts a hell of a lot of "WTFs", doesn't it? I mean,
even its most ardent fan must occasionally raise a Roger Moore
eyebrow.<br>
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bhuousel has taken the presumptive decision that the contributor's
desired end result will always be a MP relation. This is wrong,
plain & simple (& quite arrogant). iD editor should provide
tools to allow contributors to make their own decisions as easily as
possible & not take them on their behalf. <br>
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As has been noted other, editors don't make this assumption.<br>
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The correct solution to split polygons with tags on the ways is to
rejoin those ways, not create a MP.<br>
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A MP with only one* outer is invalid.<br>
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* splitting it still means there's only one. <br>
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Relations were created to allow mapping of entities, not possible
with just ways. They aren't meant to be the default for all objects.<br>
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DaveF<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/10/2020 08:11, Simon Poole wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:c4de60da-279d-1b9a-ff55-ebc57a430205@poole.ch">Its done
that essentially since day one. As Bryce points out doing so keeps
the object a valid "area" (and iD makes a valiant effort to stop
you from breaking that).
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It is also one of my favourite examples in talks why trying to
keep things simple for the user is very difficult and some times
counterproductive.
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Lots of people have had the wtf moment when they come along a
multi-polgon consisting of just one ring built from two ways. The
problem is that once the user has split the polygon, there is no
obvious point in time were you can be sure that the user is
finished with it and you could simplify, particularly when you are
trying to get the user to save often and early. So the
simplification for the iD user comes at the expense of wtf's of
everybody else.
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Simon
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Am 27.10.2020 um 02:05 schrieb Dave F via talk:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi
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<br>
I don't use iD editor much, but I've just discovered it
auto-converts closed polygons which are split (Shortcut Key = X)
into MP relations.
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I'm struggling to comprehend a logical reason for this. Is there
one? If there's been a previous discussion which I've missed
please post a link.
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There's a couple of threads on iD's github issues, bhousel
closed them with "wontfix - I Saw A Thing I Didn't Like (but is
valid in OSM).
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It may be valid, but is it desirable or helpful? I split closed
ways, in P2, for various reasons without wanting them to be
converted. How many newbies would even know what a MP relation
is?
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Having them as as split tagged ways is just as "valid". More so,
considering splitting long ways is desirable.
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DaveF
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