<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Mo., 27. Apr. 2020 um 19:52 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Oliveira <<a href="mailto:rockytvbr@gmail.com">rockytvbr@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello!<br>
<br>
I'll try to be brief and explain the main problems that exist with<br>
OSM's way of handling lack of (proper) attribution.<br>
<br>
According to the wiki page[0]:<br>
<br>
> Our requested attribution is "© OpenStreetMap contributors".<br>
> You must also make it clear that the data is available under the Open Database Licence. This can be achieved by providing a "License" or "Terms" link which links to <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.openstreetmap.org/copyright</a> or <a href="http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl</a>.<br>
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> This credit needs to appear in a place reasonable to the medium you are utilising. In other words, you should expect to credit OpenStreetMap in the same way and with the same prominence as would be expected by any other map supplier. Therefore:<br>
> - For a browsable electronic map (e.g. embedded in a web page or mobile phone application), the credit should appear in the corner of the map, as commonly seen with map APIs/libraries such as Google Maps.<br>
> - For a printed map, the credit should appear beside the map if that is where other such credits appear, and/or in the "acknowledgements" section of the publication (often at the start of a book or magazine).<br>
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Now, let's take a look at a few projects that use OSM and don't abide<br>
by our own guidelines:<br>
<br>
Facebook: I've seen some complaints over the course of the last year<br>
regarding lack of attribution from the company. I decided to take a<br>
look myself this year and was surprised, they actually attribute<br>
OpenStreetMap, but not in the way described in the wiki page. On<br>
desktop, there's an information button on the bottom-right corner of<br>
the map, where the attribution should be, and when you click it<br>
there's the attribution text. Note that the icon is barely visible and<br>
I presume most people simply ignore it because it's barely<br>
noticeable[1].<br>
<br>
You may think "well, it's fine". Except it's not. On the mobile<br>
version of the Facebook page, there's no attribution at all, simply a<br>
map. And worse, it redirects to Google Maps when you click on it. I<br>
brought this issue to the IRC channel #osm on OFTC and I was shocked<br>
at the attitude of some members that "it was fine" and that Facebook's<br>
attribution cannot be considered a case of "no attribution". I<br>
disagree. If this is the position of the majority of the OSM<br>
Foundation and members of the project, we have a problem, and I'll<br>
explain below. Honestly, it seems to me that because Facebook is a<br>
sponsor of the project, they can do attribution in whichever way<br>
they'd like to, or even remove attribution, something like "I pay for<br>
this project so its rules doesn't apply to me". And from what I've<br>
gathered by my own research, it looks like the OSMF doesn't even care<br>
about Facebook's lack of proper attribution.</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I am interested in knowing about facebook's reply to the OSMF notifications, that they are not complying with the attribution requirements and that they must either attribute in a way that is compatible with the license, or cease publicly performing works based on our data. Has there been any reply? What is a reasonable response time for large scale copyright infringement?</div><div><br></div><div>These are screenshots I just took right now, illustrating the issue:<br></div><div><a href="https://i.ibb.co/M2gp82H/Screenshot-2020-11-06-at-10-31-40.png">https://i.ibb.co/M2gp82H/Screenshot-2020-11-06-at-10-31-40.png</a><br><a href="https://i.ibb.co/rcSHmK3/Screenshot-2020-11-06-at-10-31-51.png">https://i.ibb.co/rcSHmK3/Screenshot-2020-11-06-at-10-31-51.png</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Martin<br></div></div>