<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Great questions, thanks Mateusz!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ll start with #2 because the answer is very straightforward: I would recuse myself from cases where there is a conflict of interest between the OpenStreetMap Foundation and my employer or other organizations whose boards I serve on (currently PlanScore, Facebook, GreenInfo Network, and Digital Democracy).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">#1 is a two-parter.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Facebook is in compliance with the ODbL license which requires that attribution be “reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware” of OSM’s contribution to a map. FB’s attribution approach in keeping with best practices seen from other commercial users of display maps.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Parts of the community have expressed a desire to see attribution that goes beyond the ODbL. OSMF and its LWG have been developing new OSM-specific attribution guidelines since late 2019 with proposed rules for different screen sizes, number of clicks, and privileged position of OSM contributors relative to other data sources. Currently, these are not yet finalized. Once these are released, Facebook would revisit attribution decisions in light of the wishes of the OSMF.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope this answers your questions!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-mike.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 1, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" class="">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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<div class="">(1)<br class=""></div><div class="">In 2019 you answered<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"we’re moving toward a consolidated approach to maps at Facebook. Thus, 
you will soon<br class=""></div><div class="">see us take a more uniform approach to the way we handle 
attribution across all map<br class=""></div><div class="">surfaces across the company"<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">to question[1] about illegal OSM data use (without proper attribution) by Facebook, MAPS.ME<br class=""></div><div class="">and Moovit[2].<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Do you consider current attribution used by Facebook as sufficient and displayed to all users,<br class=""></div><div class="">as required by ODBL license?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(2)<br class=""></div><div class="">Would you recuse yourself from cases where there is conflict of interest between OSM<br class=""></div><div class="">and Facebook?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example on issues such us<br class=""></div><div class="">- enforcing attribution requirements<br class=""></div><div class="">- protecting OSMF from takeover by corporations, such as Facebook<br class=""></div><div class="">- handling paid/organized editing<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM19/Election_to_Board/Answers_and_manifestos" class="">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM19/Election_to_Board/Answers_and_manifestos</a><br class=""></div><div class="">[2] MAPS.ME still has insufficient attribution, with 1.5 sec flash on opening and "MAPS.ME"<br class=""></div><div class="">attribution otherwise, Moovit fixed its attribution in Android app<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nov 30, 2020, 21:04 by <a href="mailto:mike@teczno.com" class="">mike@teczno.com</a>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class="">Absolutely!<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">----------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""></div><div class="">michal migurski- contact info and pgp key:<br class=""></div><div class="">sf/ca            <a class="" href="http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html</a><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div class="">On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via talk <<a class="" href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Is it also OK to ask questions also in public via mailing list?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nov 30, 2020, 20:00 by <a class="" href="mailto:mike@teczno.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mike@teczno.com</a>:<br class=""></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div class="">Hi everyone,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m excited to be running for the OSMF board this year! In 2021, OSM’s community has two opportunities to grow stronger together: we should make the OSM organization support a wider diversity of participants and we must succeed at starting to manage our technical operations professionally.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d like to make myself available for conversations with anyone who has questions about my candidacy, manifesto, priorities, or really anything else. I did this last year when I ran and ended up having a few really fun conversations with community members. I’m blocking these four times over the next two weeks prior to the close of voting and AGM on Dec 12; get in touch via email if you’d like to chat by text, voice, or video!<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"></span>• Dec 1, 16:00 PST – <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201201T16&p1=388&ah=1" class="">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201201T16&p1=388&ah=1</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"></span>• Dec 3, 8:00 PST – <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201203T08&p1=388&ah=1" class="">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201203T08&p1=388&ah=1</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"></span>• Dec 4, 16:00 PST – <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201205T16&p1=388&ah=1" class="">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201205T16&p1=388&ah=1</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"></span>• Dec 9, 8:00 PST – <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201209T08&p1=388&ah=1" class="">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+Campaign+Office+Hours&iso=20201209T08&p1=388&ah=1</a> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Read my complete manifesto on the Wiki for more about why I think I’d make a good OSMF board member: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM20/Election_to_Board/Answers_and_manifestos/Michal_Migurski#Manifesto" class="">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM20/Election_to_Board/Answers_and_manifestos/Michal_Migurski#Manifesto</a> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-mike.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">----------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""></div><div class="">michal migurski- contact info and pgp key:<br class=""></div><div class="">sf/ca            <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html" class="">http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html</a><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">_______________________________________________<br class=""></div><div class="">talk mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""><a class="" href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>  </div>

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