<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">The text of the first section previously ended with this sentence:<div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:italic">To what extent you might practically get away with lesser attribution - either legally or socially - is outside the scope of this document."</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:italic"><br></span></div><div><font color="#202122" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">Probably such a sentence is acceptable in some cultures, but it sounds odd in the Anglo-American legal context so I removed it.</span></font></div><div><font color="#202122" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#202122" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">However, perhaps there is a more polite way to say the same sort of thing, without seeming to invite "getting away with it?"</span></font></div><div><font color="#202122" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#202122" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">-- Joseph Eisenberg</span></font></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 12:36 AM Mateusz Konieczny via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>One thing that is missing to me is explicit mention that it is not<br></div><div>overriding ODBL or related laws and is not adding any legal<br></div><div>requirements.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If someone follows ODBL license or is in situation where following license<br></div><div>is not needed for some reason, they can legally do this.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe also mention that it is may be recommending more attribution than<br></div><div>bare minimum that is required by ODBL, so it is a safe solution that should<br></div><div>be also fine for any typical[1] project that is not hostile to OSM?<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] "typical" - especially for very small objects things gets trickier,<br></div><div>if you are making some special purpose map (tactile map for blind)<br></div><div>then attribution also needs to be adapted, if map is going to be used<br></div><div>in place where English is not understood in general you will definitely<br></div><div>need to translate attribution etc etc.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline</a> claim<br></div><div>that smartphone has not enough space for attribution is clearly untrue.<br></div><div>But if you show OSM map on screen of size 1cm x 1 cm or similarly tiny<br></div><div>physical object then alternative attribution methods - that still comply with<br></div><div>ODBL - may be preferable.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dec 4, 2020, 21:41 by <a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I appreciate the wik page "<span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap">Community attribution advice" which was made by another community member. It seems to give good advice about how database users can comply with the attribution guidelines in a way that everybody* in this community can support.</span></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Please review the page and make any comments for improvement if needed:</span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_attribution_advice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_attribution_advice<span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"></span></a></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">-- Joseph Eisenberg</span></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">(*Note that "everybody" does not include the interests of corporations, which are not persons, but rather the interests of individual mappers and database users)</span></span><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </div>
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