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    <p>Non-open apps will typically use googles play services fused
      location provider, which as the name implies doesn't just use GNSS
      data. For generating tracks it is unsuitable in any case so a pure
      tracker is unlikely going to use it.</p>
    <p>Simon<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.12.2020 um 01:02 schrieb Alan
      Mackie:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">I have noticed that Google Maps somehow seems to
          get a location at times when all other apps are struggling. </div>
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        <div>I'm not entirely convinced the playing field is level
          there. </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 20 Dec 2020, 18:18
          Simon Poole, <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">simon@poole.ch</a>>
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            <p>I don't expect side loading to be a thing for very much
              longer. Given googles crack down on anything using
              location, see <a
                href="https://twitter.com/vespucci_editor/status/1331541328883298306"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/vespucci_editor/status/1331541328883298306</a>
              for some of the drama, it would seem to be silly to leave
              that avenue open. Definitely you are going to run in to
              problems as soon as you start building against more recent
              SDK.<br>
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            <p>Simon<br>
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            <div>Am 20.12.2020 um 20:28 schrieb ipswichmapper--- via
              talk:<br>
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              <div>In this case simply use Fdroid. Its not hard and the
                apps on there give you peace of mind.</div>
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              <div>--<br>
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              <div>20 Dec 2020, 19:14 by <a
                  href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>:<br>
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                <div>Gps logger was perfect, unfortunately : <a
                    href="https://github.com/mendhak/gpslogger/issues/849"
                    rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/mendhak/gpslogger/issues/849</a><br>
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                <div>Yves <br>
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                  <div>Le 20 décembre 2020 19:43:00 GMT+01:00, Martijn
                    van Exel <a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org"
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                      moz-do-not-send="true"><m@rtijn.org></a> a
                    écrit :<br>
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                    <div>Andy, <br>
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                    <div>If you would like something lightweight that
                      just does GPS track recording, I would recommend
                      GPS Logger <a
                        href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Logger_for_Android"
                        rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Logger_for_Android</a> .
                      A nice bonus is that you can have the app
                      automatically upload your tracks to OSM in
                      whatever privacy mode you choose. It can also sync
                      with Nextcloud, Dropbox etc.<br>
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                    <div>OSMTracker offers a little more functionality
                      like recording waypoints with specific,
                      configurable notes, and recording audio notes. <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)"
                        rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)</a> <br>
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                    <div>I’m not on Android right now but I’ve used both
                      these OSS apps for years.<br>
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                    <div>Martijn<br>
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                          <div>On Dec 20, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Andy Mabbett
                            <<a
                              href="mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk"
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                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk</a>>
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                              <div>Father Christmas came early this
                                year, and has delivered to me a smart<br>
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                              <div>new Android phone, whose GPS is much
                                better than on my old one.<br>
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                              <div>I want to use it to trace some tracks
                                on a local nature reserve. What<br>
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                              <div>app(s) do you recommend for this?<br>
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                              <div>-- <br>
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                              <div>Andy Mabbett<br>
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                              <div>@pigsonthewing<br>
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