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</head><body text="#000000">Thank you for the process.<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<span>James wrote on 2020-12-21 19:15:</span><br>
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<div dir="auto">wget <a
href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar</a><div
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">java -jar josm-latest.jar</div><div
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">in a terminal</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon.,
Dec. 21, 2020, 7:13 p.m. John Whelan, <<a
href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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don't know enough about the pi to know
where to copy it to. Getting the latest .jar isn't a problem.<br>
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Thanks John<br>
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<span>James wrote on 2020-12-21 19:11:</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto"><a
href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar</a><div
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">java -jar josm-latest.jar</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon.,
Dec. 21, 2020, 7:10 p.m. John Whelan, <<a
href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000">It
seems to load from "<span style="color:rgb(3,3,3);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">sudo apt-get install josm" but it is version 14760. thank you </span><span style="color:rgb(3,3,3);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">Martin Bone you tube.
I'm not too sure where to download the new .jar file to get it to a more recent version.
So technically it will work. The big question then becomes is it useful? Low power but needs a screen. Can we leverage it in anyway?
I'm thinking if it gets into schools it might be useful but if it needs a more powerful machine than the school might purchase can we nudge up the specs in someway? I know you can use a smartphone but JOSM is a bit more powerful and you can grab a bit of osm compress it then load it up on the pi. Not real time but in areas where there is little activity a 3 or 4 day old file might well be good enough.
I'm thinking Africa here. Solar panel into a powerbank, run the pi from a powerbank. On a slightly larger scale solar panel into an instant pot with battery, gives you enough power to run a pi as well.
Instant pots have been run from solar with battery, the 3 quart pot requires a lower power level.
Can someone come up with a mixture that would work?
Thanks
Cheerio John
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<span>Oliver Simmons wrote on 2020-12-21 18:48:</span><br>
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class="MsoNormal">You’ll want to turn as
much rendering off in JOSM as you can.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Mainly:</p><p
class="MsoNormal">1. Disable “Draw boundaries of downloaded area” (This
is a big performance hit for some reason)</p><p class="MsoNormal">2.
OSM Data -> Options that affect drawing performance - disable both
antialiasing options.</p><p class="MsoNormal">3. OSM Data -> ditto -
“Hide labels when dragging the map” may also help.</p><p
class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">AFAIK other
options won’t make much difference, those are just the main three.</p><p
class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">You may also
want to experiment with styles, some (such as “Advanced lane & road
attributes” will put a lot more load on rendering due to their
complexity and the transparent parts.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p
class="MsoNormal">With the RAM & speed upgrades on the Pi4,
downloading a lot of data shouldn’t be much of an issue, only if you try
to look at it all at once.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p
class="MsoNormal">―</p><p class="MsoNormal">- Oliver Simmons
[<a href="https://goodclover.xyz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://goodclover.xyz</a>]</p><p
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style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From: </b><a
href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">John Whelan</a><br><b>Sent:
</b>21 December 2020 11:30 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">OpenStreetMap</a><br><b>Subject:
</b>[OSM-talk] JOSM on Raspberry pi 4</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p
class="MsoNormal">Has anyone tried it? My thoughts run along the lines
of the pi 400 which has 4 gigs of memory might be interesting, there
are pi4s with 8 gigs available.<br><br>If so how do you install it and
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