<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpcbfd011byahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">John, <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">you have more risk of conflicts with more complex situation then adding building. For example, if <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">- you edit a long primary road that exceed your bbox<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">- you edit administrative border relations, etc.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Let's come back to the example of the school. They invited people to come if only even for 15 minutes to help for disaster. Thats the kind of situation where we see a lot of «Hit and Run newbies ».</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">It would be better if groups like HOT and MissingMaps develop a program to support organizations and show them how to have diferent Roles like new mapper, validator, etc and where the manager of the group take the responsability to deliver quality data.<br></div><div class="ydpcbfd011bsignature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br><font style="background-color: inherit;" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div></div>
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Le mercredi 27 janvier 2021 19 h 15 min 28 s UTC−5, John Whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com> a écrit :
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mappers upload little and often and don't close iD down until you get
confirmation the upload has completed and give it a few moments to retag
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huge edit conflicts. I dont know if this is because my changeset was
closed before I finished revision / correcting all the conflicts (nodes +
ways) and re-submit, but I did have duplicates that I had to remove.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452ydp257037a4signature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br clear="none"><font style="background-color:inherit;" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br clear="none"></span></div></div>
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Le mercredi 27 janvier 2021 18 h 31 min 12 s UTC−5,
john whelan <a shape="rect" class="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><jwhelan0112@gmail.com></a> a écrit :
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doesn't make sense to me. I've done a lot of validation for HOT. When
validating I corrected and provided feedback but as far as I am aware
there is no mechanism for me to reject the edits.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The
thing that mystifies me is where the second buildings are coming from.
Once iD has put them up to the database then they should no longer be
tagged as uploadable unless it is something really stupid like close iD
down before it confirms the edits have been uploaded. On that case iD
will think they still need to go and next time it does an upload it will
upload them again.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Would someone
like to try it?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It's the sort of
thing a new mapper might do not realising you must leave iD open until
the upload is confirmed.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If this
is the case and I strongly suspect it is the answer of course is
simple. Include in the instructions to wait until iD has confirmed the
upload. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cheerio John</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452ydpc4f8998fyiv8012413341yqt2515042440" id="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452ydpc4f8998fyiv8012413341yqt63666"><div class="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452ydpc4f8998fyiv8012413341gmail_quote"><div class="ydp66aee1adyiv0470446452ydpc4f8998fyiv8012413341gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 27,
2021, 18:08 Ewen Hill <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ewen.hill@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ewen.hill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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for HOT. When validating I corrected and provided feedback but as far
as I am aware there is no mechanism for me to reject the edits.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The thing that mystifies me is
where the second buildings are coming from. Once iD has put them up to
the database then they should no longer be tagged as uploadable unless
it is something really stupid like close iD down before it confirms the
edits have been uploaded. On that case iD will think they still need to
go and next time it does an upload it will upload them again.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Would someone like to try it?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It's the sort of thing a new
mapper might do not realising you must leave iD open until the upload is
confirmed.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If this is
the case and I strongly suspect it is the answer of course is simple.
Include in the instructions to wait until iD has confirmed the upload. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cheerio John</div></div></div><br clear="none">
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