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<p>(picking this up again because it's gone quiet)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/01/2021 09:01, Alejandro Moreno
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<div>Whoever disagrees with the maritime border should be
the one to justify it since, unless proven otherwise,
every territory with a coastline has territorial waters.
From United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea ( <a
href="https://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf"
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page 27 ) "The sovereignty of a coastal State extends,
beyond its land territoryand internal waters and, in the
case of an archipelagic State, its archipelagicwaters, to
an adjacent belt of sea, described as the territorial
sea."
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<p>I can certainly see the logic here - it seems particularly
unlikely that crossing either of the bridges at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.88971/-5.31749">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.88971/-5.31749</a> , someone
would need to get their passport out twice. What isn't clear is
_how much_ water is claimed and (more important for OSM) how much
is actually controlled.<br>
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<div>As a source, <a
href="http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez</a>
can be used to see the territorial waters of Ceuta and
Melilla that is equal to EEZ. For me is difficult to find
any other source of maritime border.</div>
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<p>I've not found a suitable source either - that's why I hoped that
posting here would help!</p>
<p>What is clear is that the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez">http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez</a>
isn't much use for a couple of reasons. One is that EEZ !=
territorial waters; the seaaroundus map makes that fairly obvious,
as does <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone</a> .
Also, the seaaroundus is a not-very detailed vector map. It
suggests some sort of EEZ for Melilla, but around Ceuta the
suggested EEZ makes no sense at all - it suggests Moroccan EEZ
north and south but Spanish EEZ due east.<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Missing in all this is
the position of Morocco - can anyone point to a <br>
statement there?<br>
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<p>Unfortunately <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.community/">https://openstreetmap.community/</a> doesn't suggest
anywhere obvious.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-africa">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-africa</a> gets some
traffic but most of the messages don't seem to be local-community
based. I'll try there, but other suggestions would be welcome.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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